e-smith (www.e-smith.com) has a minor fault in its 'administration' part. If an account is added manually (that is, without using the http interface) it wont show in the accounts in the http interface. Since most/all administration is taken care of through the http interface an account would never be noticed by a clueless sysadm. Not a very big problem, but still not very good. pizza. yum. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp