On 19/03/2008, Ted Neward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given that it would appear that my proposal for updating the build process > to use a free compiler has apparently been accepted (see below), is there a > good time to start thinking about doing the migration work? Are there any > major build changes up & coming? I know Kelly has said there's some plans to > move the corba project out to an entirely Ant-driven process, so if that's > going to happen any time soon, I'll just leave it out of the migration > process. (I think the corba stuff still uses the C compiler for some of it, > no?) > > There's a two-step process I want to take with this: > 1) Let's leave most of the build infrastructure in place and just try to > swap in Visual C++ 2008 Express. > 2) Let's see about moving over to MinGW32's infrastructure (instead of > Cygwin's) and see if that doesn't help reduce the path problems we're > currently facing in the Windows build of OpenJDK. > 2) Let's see about moving over to the MinGW32 gcc compiler for building on > windows, and thus remove the dependency on Microsoft's compiler completely, > in case VC++ ever moves out of a free (as in beer or as in speech) SKU. > > My goal is to ensure that I hit #1 by the close of the project period > (August), and get as far down 2 and 3 as possible. > > Any thoughts? Suggestions? Ideas for how best to tackle this? You (the guys > at Sun) have a lot more experience with this codebase than I, so any tips, > pointers or suggestions are appreciated. > > Ted Neward > Java, .NET, XML Services > Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing > http://www.tedneward.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:announce- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Sands > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:54 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Announcing Finalists for the OpenJDK Community Innovator's > > Challenge > > > > OpenJDK Community, > > > > We're pleased to announce the finalists for the OpenJDK Community > > Innovator's > > Challenge. The judges have been meeting and discussing the 18 proposals > > received > > during the first phase of the Challenge, and evaluating these proposals > > based on > > their technical merit, and their likely impact on the OpenJDK Community > > and the > > adoption of OpenJDK-based implementations in new markets, for new > > applications and > > uses. It was not an easy decision, as most of the proposals were > > thoughtful and > > demonstrated passion and commitment to this code base and the > > community. The seven > > Finalists, in order of receipt of their proposals, are: > > > > > > Closures for Java Neal Gafter > > > > Implement XRender pipeline for Java2D Clemens Eisserer > > > > Provide date and time library from JSR-310 Stephen > > Colebourne, > > Michael > > Nascimento Santos > > > > Portable GUI backends Roman Kennke, > > Mario Torre > > > > Virtual Machine Interface Andrew John Hughes > > > > Free Software synthesizer implemention for > > the OpenJDK project Karl Helgason > > > > OpenJDK on Windows Ted Neward > > > > > > The judges, all Sun employees, are Alan Bateman, Alex Buckley, Danny > > Coward, Joe > > Darcy, Ray Gans, James Gosling, Onno Kluyt, Jim Melvin, Alex Potochkin, > > Phil Race, > > Mark Reinhold, and Rich Sands. > > > > We want to thank everyone who has entered their proposal into the > > Challenge. It is > > very exciting to see the level of enthusiasm and interest among > > developers for the > > OpenJDK code base. The finalists were chosen based on the completeness > > and relevance > > of their proposals and the degree to which the judges felt the end > > results were both > > achievable and valuable to the community at this time. Proposals that > > were not > > selected as finalists are still valuable and interesting but Sun could > > not select > > them all! The judges hope that everyone who has participated so far in > > the Challenge > > will consider continuing their efforts in the Community, and > > collaborating with their > > peers and with Sun to further the goals of the OpenJDK project. > > > > One other thing to remember -- there is no guarantee that completed > > Challenge > > projects will be integrated into the main OpenJDK code base, or into > > the Java SE > > Platform specification (which is governed by the JCP). 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So, if I'm reading this correctly, the project is to make the build on Windows both easier and Free? Your initial proposal was a little unclear (at least to me), and I couldn't work out whether or not you were proposing shifting from a Free build system (Cygwin) to a non-Free one (MSVC). This sounds different again, so it would be great to have some clarification. I'm speaking merely as an observer here; I have enough problems building OpenJDK on GNU/Linux. I wouldn't even want to attempt it on a Windows installation, so great job in taking that on! :) Cheers, -- Andrew :-) Document Freedom Day - March 26th http://documentfreedom.org Support Free Java! Contribute to GNU Classpath and the OpenJDK http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath http://openjdk.java.net PGP Key: 94EFD9D8 (http://subkeys.pgp.net) Fingerprint: F8EF F1EA 401E 2E60 15FA 7927 142C 2591 94EF D9D8
