On 06:40 Fri 11 Mar , David Holmes wrote: > Fredrik Öhrström said the following on 03/10/11 20:22: > > I think it is important that a recent stock mercurial install > > can check out the full openjdk with a single clone > > command. > > > > I.e. you should not have to install special extensions just > > to get the source code. > > That's a bit of a leading/loaded question ;-) > > > There are several ways this can be solved. But before > > we dive into discussions on the possible alternatives, > > I would like to see who else think it is a good idea. > > Stepping up a level, an initial download of openjdk need not involve > using mercurial at all. You can simply download a stable snapshot as a > tar file;
This makes much more sense as a starting point for new users over having to handle Mercurial and checkouts. It works fine if you just want to _use_ the latest and greatest, not hack on it. > or download an install script that will do whatever is > necessary behind the scenes to get a complete openjdk. I don't know how that would work. I guess IcedTea comes close to this idea in that it detects the needed settings for the build, rather than them all having to be passed as make variables. > Personally I'd > like to see that include the basic build tools as well - in which case I > don't care about "special extensions" as I just get a working toolkit. What do you mean by this? Can you give an example? > I > think in the scheme of things the process of getting the source code for > the openjdk is the easiest part of the process. Depending on your > platform setting up mercurial so that you could do that "single clone > command" may be a far greater problem. And setting up the build > environment an order of magnitude greater again. > > > Clearly, comments from people outside of Oracle > > are the most important! > > Clearly. :) > Well as a person outside Oracle, I'd agree that getting a checkout is the least of my problems. Configuring builds and fixing bugs is a much greater problem than having to write a few extra 'hg clone' commands to get a full checkout. It's just a matter of using a for loop or cobbling together a shell script as Kelly has done. Trivial stuff for anyone planning to build or hack on OpenJDK. > Cheers, > David > > > (When the source is checked out, then there can be > > mercurial extensions in the checked out source code > > for example jcheck that assists in sanity tests before > > committing. So this does not limit the actual extensions > > used later. Only that we should not "improve" on the versioning > > part of mercurial.) > > jcheck is server-side. It needs to be released as Free Software not so we can all run it but so we can see what the heck it's doing and fix issues with it. > > //Fredrik > -- Andrew :) Free Java Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com) Support Free Java! Contribute to GNU Classpath and IcedTea http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath http://icedtea.classpath.org PGP Key: F5862A37 (https://keys.indymedia.org/) Fingerprint = EA30 D855 D50F 90CD F54D 0698 0713 C3ED F586 2A37
