Hi Erik, Getting caught up on email...

On 8/30/13 2:08 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote:
> Two more questions:
>
> Are you building 32 or 64bit and how many jvm variants? I built 64bit
> so only server.
I am only building 32 bit.  My config/make invocations are:

bash ./configure --with-freetype=/cygdrive/c/Users/Pete/freetype-2.4.8/
--with-target-bits=32
make all
>
> What boot jdk are you using? 32 or 64bit? You haven't accidentally put
> a debug build there or something? I'm using a 64bit jdk7u something,
> probably 4 or 7, can't access the machine to check exactly today.
64 bit 7u21, from where the installer put it: c:\Program
Files\Java\jdk1.7.0_21 (and where configure found it).

Pete
>
> /Erik
>
> On 2013-08-30 06:52, Pete Brunet wrote:
>> Besides removing Norton 360 I defragged my disk with Auslogics Disk
>> Defrag.  The disk was quite fragmented prior to running the defragger
>> but neither of those helped much.  Current situation:
>>
>> WinSat disk:
>>
>> Average Read Time with Sequential Writes     23.026 ms
>> Latency: 95th Percentile                     121.140 ms
>> Average Read Time with Random Writes         29.098 ms
>>
>> build all, release:
>>
>> 00:01:57 corba
>> 00:04:00 demos
>> 00:09:53 docs
>> 00:08:20 hotspot
>> 00:07:16 images
>> 00:02:50 jaxp
>> 00:05:04 jaxws
>> 00:39:19 jdk
>> 00:02:09 langtools
>> 00:03:36 nashorn
>> 01:24:36 TOTAL
>>
>> The disk is 500 mb and about half full.
>> http://www.hgst.com/hard-drives/mobile-drives/9.5mm-mobile-hard-drives/travelstar-7k750
>>
>>
>> Someone with a very similar laptop, T430 vs my T500, and a similar disk
>> does much better, by an hour.  That disk has a 32 MB cache; mine has a
>> 16 MB cache.
>> http://www.hgst.com/hard-drives/mobile-drives/7mm-thin-and-light-drives/travelstar-z7k500
>>
>>
>> Maybe the disk has some sort of failure impacting performance (or the 16
>> MB cache makes a difference), though it does pass the PCDoctor/Lenovo
>> diagnostics.  Also it is running in AHCI mode which apparently is
>> supposed to be better than using Compatibility mode
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> On 8/29/13 12:36 AM, Weijun Wang wrote:
>>> I have watched this thread for some time. Yes, SSD should be faster
>>> but Pete's build times are just incredibly slow and there must be some
>>> other reason.
>>>
>>> I just open my Lenovo t410 (i5 2.6GHz, 8GB RAM, HDD) that has been
>>> asleep for the last two days, mkdir a new directory, run configure and
>>> "make langtools". The time spent is 00:01:05. Even in a VirtualBox
>>> guest inside my Mac Mini (HDD) with source and boot JDK all on the
>>> host, "make langtools" costs me 00:01:29.
>>>
>>> And Pete's number (after disable Norton 360) is
>>>
>>>      00:04:17 langtools
>>>
>>> How can this ever happen?
>>>
>>> --Max
>>>
>>> On 8/29/13 12:05 PM, Ioi Lam wrote:
>>>> Dell laptop (Win7, i5-2520M 2.5Ghz, 8GB RAM) +  Samsung 840 PRO SSD
>>>> 256GB.
>>>>
>>>> The JDK source tree is excluded from virus scan.
>>>>
>>>> The source has all the open and closed parts. I ran configure and
>>>> "make
>>>> all" with all default parameters.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Build times -------
>>>> Start 2013-08-28 20:33:57
>>>> End   2013-08-28 20:57:01
>>>> 00:00:37 corba
>>>> 00:01:21 demos
>>>> 00:02:42 docs
>>>> 00:04:07 hotspot
>>>> 00:02:18 images
>>>> 00:00:30 jaxp
>>>> 00:01:14 jaxws
>>>> 00:09:03 jdk
>>>> 00:00:45 langtools
>>>> 00:00:19 nashorn
>>>> 00:23:05 TOTAL
>>>> -------------------------
>>>>
>>>> - Ioi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 08/28/2013 04:21 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote:
>>>>> Nice to see improvement, but it's still far from where it should be.
>>>>> For comparison, here are my build times on a similar, but probably
>>>>> slower, laptop. Lenovo T410, i5 M 520 2.40GHz and 4GB ram, no ssd.
>>>>> This laptop has no anti virus scanning installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Build times -------
>>>>> Start 2013-08-28 12:25:00
>>>>> End   2013-08-28 12:54:56
>>>>> 00:00:47 corba
>>>>> 00:01:40 demos
>>>>> 00:05:43 hotspot
>>>>> 00:03:29 images
>>>>> 00:00:48 jaxp
>>>>> 00:01:38 jaxws
>>>>> 00:14:07 jdk
>>>>> 00:01:10 langtools
>>>>> 00:00:25 nashorn
>>>>> 00:29:56 TOTAL
>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> /Erik
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2013-08-27 23:14, Pete Brunet wrote:
>>>>>> Here are my release build times with my repo tree in the Norton 360
>>>>>> real
>>>>>> time virus checking ignore list:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:03:34 corba
>>>>>> 00:12:51 demos
>>>>>> 00:15:10 docs
>>>>>> 00:18:42 hotspot
>>>>>> 00:15:55 images
>>>>>> 00:01:42 jaxp
>>>>>> 00:07:32 jaxws
>>>>>> 00:43:04 jdk
>>>>>> 00:04:17 langtools
>>>>>> 00:02:31 nashorn
>>>>>> 02:05:18 TOTAL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the prior times:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 00:05:55 corba
>>>>>> 00:09:46 demos
>>>>>> 00:15:00 docs
>>>>>> 00:18:37 hotspot
>>>>>> 00:17:13 images
>>>>>> 00:03:32 jaxp
>>>>>> 00:11:41 jaxws
>>>>>> 01:05:35 jdk
>>>>>> 00:06:47 langtools
>>>>>> 00:02:26 nashorn
>>>>>> 02:37:45 TOTAL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A half hour improvement is nice, but looks like I need to switch to
>>>>>> an SSD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/9/13 11:25 AM, Pete Brunet wrote:
>>>>>>> Any suggestions for SSDs?  My T500 takes 2.5" SATA II.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/9/13 10:44 AM, Andreas Rieber wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> try perfmon.exe to see where the bottleneck is. Most likely it is
>>>>>>>> memory or io. If you have the option, go for a SSD drive (you
>>>>>>>> will get
>>>>>>>> build times ~10 minutes).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 09.08.13 16:44, Pete Brunet wrote:
>>>>>>>>> My product is Norton 360.  To turn it off I right click on the
>>>>>>>>> Norton
>>>>>>>>> 360 icon in the system tray and choose Disable Antivirus
>>>>>>>>> Auto-Protect.
>>>>>>>>> If anyone knows if this is not sufficient and what else needs to
>>>>>>>>> be done
>>>>>>>>> please let me know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/9/13 1:58 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if anti virus is really turned off here. In my
>>>>>>>>>> experience,
>>>>>>>>>> it's hard to make it stop completely. I have a slightly older
>>>>>>>>>> laptop,
>>>>>>>>>> same brand, that builds this in around 40-45 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /Erik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-08-09 03:32, Pete Brunet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't rebuilt a release version yet for a true comparison but
>>>>>>>>>>> here are
>>>>>>>>>>> my fastdebug times with anti-virus turned off; about the
>>>>>>>>>>> same as
>>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>> with anti-virus on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 00:04:30 corba
>>>>>>>>>>> 00:07:25 demos
>>>>>>>>>>> 00:16:28 docs
>>>>>>>>>>> 00:16:15 hotspot
>>>>>>>>>>> 00:23:13 images
>>>>>>>>>>> 00:04:18 jaxp
>>>>>>>>>>> 00:07:29 jaxws
>>>>>>>>>>> 00:59:41 jdk
>>>>>>>>>>> 00:05:11 langtools
>>>>>>>>>>> 00:01:42 nashorn
>>>>>>>>>>> 02:26:32 TOTAL
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/13 12:55 PM, Kelly O'Hair wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Using a debug jdk as your boot jdk
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Langtools taking 6 minutes is crazy long. Since there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> native
>>>>>>>>>>>> code there, #1 would be my first guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -kto
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Weijun Wang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      From my experiences there are 3 reasons a compile
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Anti-Virus programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Virtual Machines
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Network folders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Max
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/13 12:48 AM, Pete Brunet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Erik,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:05:55 corba
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:09:46 demos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:15:00 docs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:18:37 hotspot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:17:13 images
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:03:32 jaxp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:11:41 jaxws
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:05:35 jdk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:06:47 langtools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 00:02:26 nashorn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 02:37:45 TOTAL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/5/13 6:55 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was disappointingly slow for sure. Do you have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summary listing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Erik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-08-02 22:26, Pete Brunet wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FWIW I just built 32 bit jdk8 release on 64 bit win 7 with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cygwin 1.7.21
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a dual core 8 GB 2.53 GHz Lenovo T500 and the build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2:37:45.

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