On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 02:12:16PM +0200, Mario Torre wrote:
> I can't check the patches in detail now, but I see that the discussion
> on those threads doesn't go much on the technical side but rather
> focus on whether Oracle should support or not their own products :)

Well, I wish we could focus on the technical side.

> I think David's reply was highlighting the actual points instead:
> 
> * The status of linux-sparc as a port in OpenJDK 9 (or 8u) is unclear
> * There is no way you will get them JDK 9 at this stage, this work
> needs to be done on 10

I just want the changes to get merged into what would be HEAD in git
terms, just to get them off my plate.

> * Hotspot group leads should have a say on this
> 
> I think it makes sense to seek the hotspot leads approval for that
> work before anything else.

For one-liner patches?

> >> In the meantime perhaps I would suggest to get in touch with the
> >> distro-pkg-dev people since they may help you, even if this is not
> >> Linux specific.
> >
> > I am one of the maintainers of the Debian/sparc64 port and we have the
> > possibility to add distro-specific patches. However, I don't want to
> > carry these patches around forever but rather get them merged upstream
> > and make them available to all downstreams, not just Debian.
> >
> 
> The way we have done that in the past is exactly this, slowly merge
> upstream all the downstream specific changes, it's a process that
> takes a lot of time, especially at the beginning when you need to
> build trust and experience with the upstream developers.

That's sound very slow and painful. I don't think this way you will be
able to attract contributors in the future. If such minor changes
already involve so much discussion, most contributors will refrain
from sending in patches which is sad because it means lots of good
patches and ideas will never get merged.

Adrian

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