On 13/08/2020 5:39 pm, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi Matthias, David,

On 2020/08/13 15:52, Baesken, Matthias wrote:


Should we make the change to determine just before it is needed (e.g. VM.info or hs_err log) at first? It is out of scope of this change, so I want to work as another issue if it is needed.


Hi ,
I think we better do not call into WMI , when  writing an hs_err file   .

I found out from Hypervisor Top Level Functional Specification [1] section 2.4.8.
That says CPUID leaf 0x40000007 is available to the root partition only.

I changed VM_Version::is_in_VM() as below, and it works fine.
(I use __cpuid intrinsic in here because this code would be compiled by cl.exe only.)

```
#include <intrin.h>

#define EAX 0
#define EBX 1
#define ECX 2
#define EDX 3

bool VM_Version::is_in_VM() {
   int regs[4];
   __cpuid(regs, 0x40000007);

   // CPUID leaf 0x40000007 is available to the root partition only.
  return (regs[EAX] == 0x0) && (regs[EBX] == 0x0) && (regs[ECX] == 0x0) && (regs[EDX] == 0x0);
}
```

Also startup performance is better than WMI call.

TotalMilliseconds : 66.7863
TotalMilliseconds : 56.8123
TotalMilliseconds : 57.0015
TotalMilliseconds : 62.4755
TotalMilliseconds : 67.7632
average : 62.16776

If you are ok this change, I will update webrev, and will send review request.
(new webrev will include both loop for CPUID leaf and renaming is_in_VM)

If it works and addresses the startup hit then I'm fine with it - but still can't actually review the code.

Thanks,
David


Thanks,

Yasumasa


[1] https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/Virtualization-Documentation/raw/master/tlfs/Hypervisor%20Top%20Level%20Functional%20Specification%20v6.0b.pdf


Best regards, Matthias



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Subject: Re: PING: RFR: 8250598: Hyper-V is detected in spite of running on host OS

On 2020/08/13 11:54, David Holmes wrote:
On 13/08/2020 11:12 am, Yasumasa Suenaga wrote:
Hi Matthias, David,

I measured startup benchmarks with `Measure-Command {.\jdk\build\windows-x86_64-server-release\images\jdk\bin\java.exe --version}` on PowerShell.

* PC: Ryzen 3 3300X, 16GB memory
* OS: Windows 10 x64 (May 2020 Update)
* Java: jdk/jdk revision 60537
      (Compiled by VS 2019 (16.7.0))

* without patch
TotalMilliseconds : 70.2124
TotalMilliseconds : 64.4465
TotalMilliseconds : 59.0854
TotalMilliseconds : 68.0255
TotalMilliseconds : 72.6467
average : 66.8833

* with webrev.01
TotalMilliseconds : 81.7185
TotalMilliseconds : 68.539
TotalMilliseconds : 85.7226
TotalMilliseconds : 72.6584
TotalMilliseconds : 75.6091
average : 76.84952

Overhead of WMI seems to be +10ms in this case.

Which is nearly 15%! Sorry but I just know Claes will be very unhappy if this were to go in as-is.

Should we make the change to determine just before it is needed (e.g. VM.info or hs_err log) at first? It is out of scope of this change, so I want to work as another issue if it is needed.


Yasumasa


David
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Yasumasa


On 2020/08/13 0:05, Baesken, Matthias wrote:
I understand that if the process runs on Xen on other hypervisor (e.g. KVM), information for Xen would be set between 0x40000100 and 0x40010000. Ok, I will not remove the loop in new webrev, and will add comment about it.

Hi Yasumasa  , thanks !

Regarding the WMI overhead , if you could  get some more info on this it would be better to judge if it is perfectly okay or concerning .

(I remember that I looked into it a couple of years ago , but decided not to use it in early VM startup ;  but have to confess this was just based on a "gut feeling",
   No micro benchmarks  )

Best regards, Matthias


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