On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 17:00:15 GMT, Andrew Haley <a...@openjdk.org> wrote:

>> A bug in GCC causes shared libraries linked with -ffast-math to disable 
>> denormal arithmetic. This breaks Java's floating-point semantics.
>> 
>> The bug is https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55522
>> 
>> One solution is to save and restore the floating-point control word around 
>> System.loadLibrary(). This isn't perfect, because some shared library might 
>> load another shared library at runtime, but it's a lot better than what we 
>> do now. 
>> 
>> However, this fix is not complete. `dlopen()` is called from many places in 
>> the JDK. I guess the best thing to do is find and wrap them all. I'd like to 
>> hear people's opinions.
>
> Andrew Haley has updated the pull request incrementally with one additional 
> commit since the last revision:
> 
>   8295159: DSO created with -ffast-math breaks Java floating-point arithmetic

On 10/31/22 15:49, Joe Darcy wrote:
> In terms of the overhead of using floating-point expression evaluation
> as a guard, are there still platforms where operating on subnormal
> values is pathologically slower? Some generations of SPARC chips had
> that behavior where a subnormal multiply would take, say 10,000 cycles,
> rather than 3 or 4 since the subnormal operations were implemented via
> trap handling.

That's a very interesting point. I know it used to be the case that denormals
were handled by trapping to microcode, but there are good hardware algorithms
since Schwarz et al, 2003 [1]. This paper showed how with a little hardware,
such numbers can be handled close to the speed of normalized numbers.

I deliberately ran my tests on a ten-year-old CPU, but I guess I'd have to go
further back to find a bad case.

Anyway, I plan to

a. Restore the FPU CR after calls to dlopen(3).
b. Detect FPU CR corruption at safepoints, and print a warning. At least
    the user might find out that something is wrong.

I think this will avoid most cases of badness. I guess I'll need a CSR for
this?


[1] Hardware implementations of denormalized numbers, 
DOI:10.1109/ARITH.2003.1207662
Conference: Computer Arithmetic, 2003. Proceedings. 16th IEEE Symposium on

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PR: https://git.openjdk.org/jdk/pull/10661

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