On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Gilles Scokart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2008/5/1 Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Martijn Dashorst <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 5/1/08, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > >  > I'm not keen to restart the git discussion again. Using a DSCM
> is
> >  > >  > according to a lot of folks within the foundation antithetical
> to the
> >  > >  > Apache Way. There are others who claim that this Apache Way is
> based
> >  > >  > too much on the svn workflow. In either case: git is not
> supported,
> >  > >  > nor will it be anytime this decade for Apache development.
> >  > >
> >  > > Seems to me that you're generalizing the "we stick with SVN"
> opinion to
> >  > >  "dSCM is always evil". Am I not free anymore to use whatever I
> want to
> >  > >  develop on my machine?
> >  >
> >  > No, I summarized the discussion's two antagonist opinions: one states
> >  > that dscm is antithetical to the Apache Way, the other states that
> the
> >  > Apache Way is too constrained by Apache's use of svn (or cvs). Of
> >  > course this doesn't do justice to all opinions voiced in the ~500
> >  > messages that transpired in februari.
> >  >
> >  > You are free to use whatever you want, as long as the Apache related
> >  > stuff works according the Apache Way (tm). According to many, the
> >  > Apache Way is using a centralized repository, with all development
> >  > happening in that repository, open to the public. They fear creating
> >  > block commits, pulling in code without due process (i.e. CLA, SG, or
> >  > JIRA donation) and a community that works the Linux way instead of
> the
> >  > Apache way.
> >  >
> >
> >  To which I reply: try it and see. It's always easy to fear what you
> don't
> >  know.
> >
> >
> >
>
> I don't want to reactivate this thread.  I just want to make sure you
> understood one point by repharasing it.
>
> If we 'fear' creating block commits, it is simply because we know what
> it give.  When a commit is too big it is impossible to review and it
> becomes more difficult to have a community 'ownership' of the code.
>

Yep, sure. But I've seen many huge month-worth commits with SVN. And I've
seen many times a day small commits with dSCMs. But I understand the SVN vs.
dSCM debate is now happening on infra@, you're welcome to join the party :)


>
> (Now, I didn't say that you are making too big changes...  I just say
> that it could happen...)
>
> I will now follow Martijn and lurking again also.
>

Thanks for lurking!


>
> --
> Gilles Scokart
>

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