The comments you make are exactly why we are dealing with HIPAA transactions and code sets.  Standards so providers and payers all speak the same language.  However, I believe I saw something in the past about using this site in a productive manner.  I would take issue with come of the comments made in the last two messages.  You are correct that everyone wins when EOB's are clear on both the provider and member side.  Which is why I find it difficult to believe that payers deliberately make things confusing.  System limitations, budget constraints, multiple plans with different claims determination rules, adjudicating claims fast and efficiently through auto-adjudication, COB and many other issues come into play in notifications that may not appear clear.  I have seen Medicare, Medicaid EOB's and the only thing more clear about them is you see them all the time.  There have been other efforts to make the system better.  DOL claims regulations requirement of certain disclosures on EOB's are one example. 
 
If you have issues with certain EOB's talk to your higher volume payers and seek a productive dialogue about how things can be made more clear.  Sometimes things are complicated and there just isn't a clear way to connect medical terminology to laymen's terms.  Try to explain to a patient why there are three different charges for one test and how each one was paid.  Sometime it is not an easy task.
  
 
               

>>> "Daniel E. McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/31/02 12:46AM >>>




Dawn:

 

I have worked closely over the past two years with multiple payer organizations over the past two years and I can assure you that the payer believes that less is better.  Having worked on both sides of this issues I feel the providers and patients suffer.  Neither can communicate effectively with each other because the Provider Summary and the Patient’s EOB have different verbiage and numbers on them.  A provider and patient can barely discuss the financial settlement anymore because the payers do their best to make it unclear.  I saw a program on TV last night discussing generic medications and how the big drug companies play the system to keep the generic drugs from market so they can make more profit for their shareholders.  The payers are doing their best to do the same with confusing the reimbursement process.  I for one would invite discussions on a national healthcare insurance system similar to Medicare that would be controlled by a single governmental entity.  Medicare pays most of our physicians better than most of the managed care plans with less hassle!  I am not one to ask for government involvement but there has to be a better way.  Who has the nice big beautiful glass skyscrapers?  The Insurance Companies.  Ask yourself how they afford it.  I no a large payer that built their own skyscraper to spend some of those dollars!!!!

 

Sorry for the long winded response but the payers do not want this reconciliation to be an easy process.

 

Daniel E. McDonald
ProvidrServ, Inc.
4590 Lincoln Road
Indianapolis, IN  46228
(317) 299- 6450 x 114
(317) 299- 6436 Fax

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Subject: Re: Hi All, and putting detailed info on EOBs

 

Speaking from the Provider standpoint, physician practices are not at all pleased with the lack of depth of information on EOBs.  Major consultants are advising doctor's offices to request that patients share the EOBs that they receive so that the doctor's office can make heads or tails out of what the insurer is paying.  When a physician has to resort to that level to find out what they are being paid for,  that reflects pretty poorly on the insurer in both the patient's and the physician's eyes. 

It only makes good business sense to provide accurate, detailed information on payments on EOBS, no matter to whom they are mailed.  The staff resource savings on answering questions alone would pay the additional cost, not to mention the increased ease of doing business.

I'd be happy to talk to anyone on or off line about this issue....it is HUGE from a physician practice standpoint.

Dawn Holcombe
Executive Director
Oncology Network of CT, LLC
435 Buckland Road - Rosewood Building
South Windsor, CT 06074

860-644-7282
860-644-7475 fax
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