Dear Krishnamegh, Unfortunately I do not have the picture of the upper side. In fact, in the field, I identified the specimen as Palni Four-ring, primarily because of its geographical location south of Palghat Gap, but later, after going through available literature, I changed my mind. I would really appreciate a feedback. Happiness to you! unni www.imagery.in ................................................. Dr.Unni Krishnan Pulikkal ARPS Pady P.O., Kodaly, Thrissur Dt., Kerala, India PIN.680699 Cell: 9446508102 Res: +91 480 2740735 ................................................. The Butterfly Art Foundation, India www.bafindia.org .................................................
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Kunte, Krushnamegh <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Unni, I am inclined to identify this as the Palni Four-ring rather than the > Nilgiri Four-ring. Do you have the upper side of this specimen? Soubadra and > Ullasa, what do you think? > > Krushnamegh. > ------------------------------ > *From: *Unni Pulikkal <[email protected]> > > *Reply-To: *butterflyindia <[email protected]> > *Date: *Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:01:00 -0500 > > *To: *butterflyindia <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [ButterflyIndia] Fwd: Nilgiri Fourring > > > I am sorry that I could not post it earlier. > I made this shot at Nelliyampathy Hills in Oct 2009. > The species is strictly confined to the grassy-rocky terrain of the hills > and seems it never enters the adjoining shola forests. > Happiness to you! > unni > www.imagery.in <http://www.imagery.in> > > ................................................. > Dr.Unni Krishnan Pulikkal ARPS > Pady P.O., Kodaly, Thrissur Dt., > Kerala, India PIN.680699 > Cell: 9446508102 > Res: +91 480 2740735 > ................................................. > The Butterfly Art Foundation, India > www.bafindia.org <http://www.bafindia.org> > ................................................. > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Kunte, Krushnamegh < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Susanth, thanks for posting this image once again. This is the picture I > have in my reference collection and the one I was referring to in my > previous email. This is a classic wing pattern of the Nilgiri Four-ring > (*Ypthima > chenui*): prominent, broad yellow rings around ocelli on both fore- and > hindwings, and much whiter underside. The Palni Four-ring (*Ypthima > ypthimoides*) has much darker underside, and has very thin, somewhat > obscure yellow rings around ocelli (this from Evans’ book). These characters > are clearly seen in my pictures on the BOI website. > > Thanks for confirming the locality of your photograph. David Raju also just > sent me Toms Augustine’s pictures of the species from near Thekkedy, so we > have independent sightings from at least two areas. This piqued my curiosity > once again, so I went back to some old literature to find out what others > were saying about the distribution of these species. Wynter-Blyth was vague > about the exact distribution of the Nilgiri Four-ring, so I wasn’t sure what > he meant. But then Gaonkar’s Western Ghats list clearly states that “*Ypthima > chenui* is found both south and north of the Palghat Gap 82. *Ypthima > ypthimoidesis* found only south of the Palghat Gap”. So I guess this > distributional pattern is well represented in museum specimens. I have > personally never seen the Nilgiri Four-ring south of the Palghat Gap, > though. I wonder why the Palni Four-ring is so common south of the Palghat > Gap but the Nilgiri Four-ring is common in its north. Do you see the Nilgiri > Four-ring commonly at Ponmudi? > > I do not recall seeing your other picture that’s used in Isaac’s book, so I > do not know why I would have identified it as the Nilgiri Four-ring. > > With best wishes, > > Krushnamegh. > ------------------------------------------------- > > Krushnamegh Kunte, PhD > > Post-doctoral Research Fellow > FAS Center for Systems Biology, Harvard University > 52 Oxford St., Northwest Lab Room 458.40-3 > Cambridge, MA 02138, USA. > > Ph: (617) 496-0078, Cell: (512) 577-1370, Fax: (617) 495-2196 > Email: [email protected] <http://[email protected]> > Other emails: [email protected] <http://[email protected]> , > [email protected] < > http://[email protected]> > > Personal website: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~kunte/index.htm > Indian Foundation for Butterflies: http://ifoundbutterflies.org/ > Google profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/krushnamegh > > ------------------------------ > *From: *Susanth c <[email protected] <http://[email protected]> > > *Reply-To: *butterflyindia <[email protected] < > http://[email protected]> > > > *Date: *Sun, 13 Feb 2011 22:19:19 -0500 > *To: *butterflyindia <[email protected] < > http://[email protected]> > > *Cc: *"C. Susanth" <[email protected] <http://[email protected]> > > > *Subject: *[ButterflyIndia] Fwd: Nilgiri Fourring > > > Dear Krushnamegh, > Here I again post my earlier Nilgiri Fourring posting in > ButterflyIndia..This picture was confirmed as Nilgiri fourring by you and my > earlier picture I send to Isaac's Book also confirmed as Nilgiri Fourring by > you. > My fourring pictures are taken from Ponmudi Hills.I havent taken any > fourring picture from Palaghat gap. > My Nilgiri Fourring u mentioned as Palani Fouring in Issack's book was > taken from Athirumala, on the way to Agasthyakoodam peak during the year > 2002-03 > If you need my fourring pictures for more identification/clarification i > will mail it to you. > with warm regards > Susanth > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Susanth c* <[email protected] <http://[email protected]> > > Date: Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM > Subject: Nilgiri Fourring > To: [email protected] <http://[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] <http://[email protected]> , > [email protected] <http://[email protected]> , > [email protected] <http://[email protected]> , "C. Susanth" < > [email protected] <http://[email protected]> > > > > Hai All, > Here I attached the image of Nilgiri Four-ring-Ypthima* chenui* an endemic > butterfly to Western Ghats > taken from Ponmudi Hills(Trivandrum,Kerala) during 2008.I am thankful all > members of Warblers and Waders for their field support and encouragement.I > am also thankful to Krushnamegh for provide details and identification tips > of Nilgiri four-ring and its kin Palani four-ring. > With warm regards > Susanth > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Enjoy
