Potentially ‘yes’ to both situations. There are many factors that will favor or prevent speciation, though. It’s a complex subject but several useful reviews have been published recently. You can easily find them on google.
________________________________ From: Kishen Das <[email protected]> Reply-To: butterflyindia <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:05:48 -0500 To: butterflyindia <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ButterflyIndia] Western Ghats endemics from the Butterflies of India website How is this explained ? Could this also happen in say species like say Papilio polytes, where groups having mimetic and non-mimetic females separate out enough in time to form sub-species ? Last question - if female has multiple mimic forms, are there any chances for groups with mimetic females with more common specific forms to separate out in space and form different species? For example: If Nelliampathy hills in Kerala has just Papilio polytes romulus and Horsley Hills in Andhra Pradesh has just Papilio polytes stichius forms. Could it possible for these groups to become different species, given enough time ? Any references will be helpful. Kishen On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Kunte, Krushnamegh <[email protected]> wrote: Right, so this is a different taxon (hybrida) that has mimetic females. Populations south of the Palghat Gap have non-mimetic females and go by the name of castetsi. ________________________________ From: Unni Pulikkal <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > Reply-To: butterflyindia <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:08:42 -0500 To: butterflyindia <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > Subject: Re: [ButterflyIndia] Western Ghats endemics from the Butterflies of India website Dear Krishnamegh, These are pictures made in Dec 2008. I have not processed images of Feb 2011. Will send you later if you wish to see. Happiness to you! unni www.imagery.in <http://www.imagery.in/> <http://www.imagery.in <http://www.imagery.in/> > ................................................. Dr.Unni Krishnan Pulikkal ARPS Pady P.O., Kodaly, Thrissur Dt., Kerala, India PIN.680699 Cell: 9446508102 Res: +91 480 2740735 ................................................. The Butterfly Art Foundation, India www.bafindia.org <http://www.bafindia.org/> <http://www.bafindia.org <http://www.bafindia.org/> > ................................................. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Kunte, Krushnamegh <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > wrote: Unni, I would like to see your images of both sexes from the Nilgiris. As for the names, look out for my forthcoming Catalogue for a detailed discussion of this matter. It should be ready towards the end of this year. Cheers, Krushnamegh. ________________________________ From: Unni Pulikkal <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> <http://[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > > Reply-To: butterflyindia <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> <http://[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > > Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 01:33:17 -0500 To: butterflyindia <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> <http://[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > > Subject: Re: [ButterflyIndia] Western Ghats endemics from the Butterflies of India website Dear Krishnamegh, Any reason why Indian Fritillary was renamed to Palni Fritillary? In fact, the species is not limited to Palni hills alone. They are present in shola-grasslands of Nilgiri hills as well, though uncommon. I have photographed both sexes from sholas of Lovedale (Ooty) and sholas of Sholur, on way from Ooty to Gudallur, the last record was two weeks back. Happiness to you! unni www.imagery.in <http://www.imagery.in/> <http://www.imagery.in <http://www.imagery.in/> > <http://www.imagery.in <http://www.imagery.in/> > ................................................. Dr.Unni Krishnan Pulikkal ARPS Pady P.O., Kodaly, Thrissur Dt., Kerala, India PIN.680699 Cell: 9446508102 Res: +91 480 2740735 ................................................. The Butterfly Art Foundation, India www.bafindia.org <http://www.bafindia.org/> <http://www.bafindia.org <http://www.bafindia.org/> > <http://www.bafindia.org <http://www.bafindia.org/> > ................................................. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Kunte, Krushnamegh <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> <http://[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > > wrote: Four Western Ghats endemics from the Butterflies of India website: Nilgiri Clouded Yellow (Colias nilagiriensis): http://ifoundbutterflies.net/56-colias/colias-nilagiriensis Malabar Tree-Nymph (Idea malabarica): http://ifoundbutterflies.net/113-idea/idea-malabarica Palni Fritillary (Argynnis castetsi): http://ifoundbutterflies.net/122-argynnis/argynnis-castetsi Tailed Palmfly (Elymnias caudata): http://ifoundbutterflies.net/425-elymnias/elymnias-caudata With best wishes, Krushnamegh. ------------------------------------------------- Krushnamegh Kunte, PhD Post-doctoral Research Fellow FAS Center for Systems Biology, Harvard University 52 Oxford St., Northwest Lab Room 458.40-3 Cambridge, MA 02138, USA. Ph: (617) 496-0078, Cell: (512) 577-1370, Fax: (617) 495-2196 Email: [email protected] <http://[email protected]/> <http://[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > <http://[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > Other emails: [email protected] <http://[email protected]/> <http://[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > <http://[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > , [email protected] <http://[email protected]/> <http://[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > <http://[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > Personal website: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~kunte/index.htm Indian Foundation for Butterflies: http://ifoundbutterflies.org/ Google profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/krushnamegh -- Enjoy
