1) Yes, selective moderation is very much possible. I am already practising it on two groups. 2) My experience is that spam mails are may be less than 2% - which is really not material. In e-groups, they come only when the some member's account has been breached - which is not a very commonplace pheonomenon. And you can experiment for a while and if we have persistent problem, then we can go back to original arrangement. 3) Another option is that Vijay can appoint 3-4 trusted moderators (which is also very much possible) - preferably those who access their mails throughout the day. That can also ensure immeditate release with moderation. I want to add that I have personally no issues with the present system because I am not a very major contributor. Last Sunday, I happened to be with a group of BF watchers at Yeoor and the talk of sighting of Abnormal Silverline from a previous Sunday started. I realised that people from that group had posted the pictures on Facebook but not on the e-group.Now its not that these people are inactive on the e-group, but may be they thought the exciting news should reach others as fast as possible. Again, its just a suggestion. Doesn't necessarily have to be acted upon. --- On Wed, 3/7/12, Krushnamegh Kunte <[email protected]> wrote: From: Krushnamegh Kunte <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ButterflyIndia] Butterfly India needs a little more support from us. To: "butterflyindia" <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 12:09 AM Vijay, is such an arrangement technically feasible on yahoo groups? If it is, that may solve the problem that Shyam pointed. I don’t know whether exceptions can be made for established members but not very new members who may or may not be genuine butterfly watchers. We get occasional spam even with moderated emails, complete lack of moderation may be much worse. With best regards, Krushnamegh. ------------------------------------------------- Krushnamegh Kunte, PhD Ramanujan Fellow and Reader National Center for Biological Sciences (NCBS) Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) GKVK, Bellary Road, Bengaluru 560065, India. Ph: +91 80 2366-6001/02/18/19, ext 6410 Ph (London): +44 7831-204-169 Mobile: + 91 9483-525-925 Email: [email protected], [email protected] Website: http://biodiversitylab.org/ Indian Foundation for Butterflies: http://ifoundbutterflies.org/ Emails: [email protected], [email protected] From: SHYAM GHATE <[email protected]> Reply-To: butterflyindia <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 01:06:42 -0800 (PST) To: butterflyindia <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ButterflyIndia] Butterfly India needs a little more support from us. On the subject of Facebook Vs US, I still feel that things will improve on the e-group if the messages can start appearing instantly. The excitement of getting some new finding across to everyone or to get the urge for immediate identification satisfied, is met if the mails appear immediately on the group. This may be getting served on Facebook (I wont know for sure because I am not a member). So perhaps we should seriously think of letting pass through the mails from established members. I do think it is a damper when you excitedly post something and it doesn't appear till the next day. I recently experienced that even on a semi-international and serious group like Oriental Bird Pics, they monitor your mails for a few days and if found OK, stop moderating them. Just an opinion. --- On Tue, 3/6/12, Aparna V K <[email protected]> wrote: From: Aparna V K <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ButterflyIndia] Butterfly India needs a little more support from us. To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2012, 9:25 AM Hi, A while ago there was a discussion on the group to start outings in different regions. Can we start this again? A lot of new comers like me can learn a lot through such outings and interactions. I live in bangalore and I see that quite a few of us from around here. Can we start 2 outings per month basis? I am willing to co-ordinate the arrangements. -- Aparna On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Krushnamegh Kunte <[email protected] <http://us.mc1125.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > wrote: Dear Nelson, I agree with all your points. I had talked to Rohan and Vijay two weeks ago and Rohan had agreed to give weekend updates from Fecaebook if any interesting images had been posted there that week. Ashok and others could also post links to the blog whenever anything interesting gets posted. With best regards, Krushnamegh. ------------------------------------------------- Krushnamegh Kunte, PhD Ramanujan Fellow and Reader National Center for Biological Sciences (NCBS) Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) GKVK, Bellary Road, Bengaluru 560065, India. Ph: +91 80 2366-6001/02, extension 6410 Mobile: + 91 9403-975-925 Email: [email protected] <http://[email protected]/> , [email protected] <http://[email protected]/> Website: http://biodiversitylab.org/ Indian Foundation for Butterflies: http://ifoundbutterflies.org/ Emails: [email protected] <http://[email protected] rg/> , [email protected] <http://[email protected]/> From: Nelson Rodrigues <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > Reply-To: butterflyindia <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:01:29 -0800 (PST) To: butterflyindia <[email protected] <http://[email protected]/> > Subject: [ButterflyIndia] Butterfly India needs a little more support from us. And that includes me... yes friends, once upon a time we used to receive lots of images from all of us, now the numbers have come down as all of us can see. A great performance comes from the artist and the audience applause, very often nice pictures come up but the response from our end is almost missing..Very often krushnamegh and Isaac Kehimkar have some encouraging words to say, I think we all ought to emulate them. That is what will encourage the others to send more of their images. A good butterfly photographer from Mumbai told me a few months ago," I prefer to post on Facebook as there is some response from the viewers.... When i send the images to Butterfly India is as if i have posted them against some dead wall" Vijay Barve the leader of the group is trying his best with new themes but i am sure the response from the rest of us could be better, As Butterfly India has more than 1000 members We have to work on two fronts one will to get people to send pictures , the other side will be to ask members to send words of encouragement to those who have posted if you are reluctant to post your letter on the group please send a a personal message to the contributor. Almost all artists like some feedback on their work. Also most of us check the mails on weekends unfortunately sometimes there is no mail on these two vital days, could we have another moderator who will help out on these two days. Suggestion no 3 would be Could someone pick up the images from facebook and upload it on this site on a once a week basis. All the photos can come under one mail entitled...Images from Facebook this week. Of course a common consensus is required regarding this suggestion. Any other suggestions from readers how we can revitalise this group are welcome Nelson Rodrigues -- Enjoy
