Thomas Hruska a écrit :
> David wrote:
>   
>>
>> There are too many security issues on using a full C++ implementation.
>> May be using a dedicated virtual machine could a solution (even if too 
>> costly)
>>     
>
> Setting up a unique virtual machine in a timely manner isn't going to 
> happen in the near future.  Unless you mean one virtual machine 
> everything runs under.  Might be doable but you would want to refresh 
> the machine every hour or so.
>
>   

Some demos on the web reload a save state every night.

> I was thinking of maybe something similar to strace only designed to 
> provide an outer defensive sandbox.  And then a custom run-time library 
> to compile against for inner defenses.  Someone trying to bypass the 
> custom library would hit the outer sandbox.  Obviously, this sort of 
> setup is better suited for a Linux environment.  Could also create a new 
> temporary user for each program part of a very restrictive group.  At 
> the end, results are dumped to the browser and the temporary user is 
> deleted.
>
>
>   

strace. oh yes.
But I should be diffilcult to recognize malicious use of code.
But I good idea for project indeed.

>>>  Their system also depends on sending e-mail results 
>>> because problems are processed through a queue.
>>>       
>> A basic of asynchronous call.
>> In fact, the mail is quite new for the newbies.
>> Before, there was only a page that display the result of your code for a 
>> problem,
>> and sometimes, I can be difficult to know why your code didn't compile.
>> The mail help to have the error message.
>>
>>     
>>>   I want something that 
>>> puts the results in the same browser session (probably involving AJAX'ey 
>>> goodness).  And it would also be nice to have a "virtual console" via 
>>> AJAX where you can type stuff into a 'cin'ed app. and have the typed 
>>> letters be forwarded from the browser to the app.
>>>
>>> This would be a great project for a student who's brain is gnawing its 
>>> way out in class.  That is, you fully comprehend what is being taught 
>>> and are bored to tears and want something useful and HARD (yet extremely 
>>> cool) to do.  This is not an easy project when you place the security of 
>>> the host system at top-priority and yet want to allow file I/O, sockets, 
>>> and other things.  Blocking those things is easy.  Allowing such things 
>>> makes security of the host hard to impossible.
>>>       
>> This is probably why Java (and it is security system) was created ;)
>>     
>
> You run into the same problems with Java if compiled and executed on the 
> local host and allow file I/O, sockets, etc.
>   

I thought more on the applet part.
But yes, it came to the same for a server.
> Besides, the point of this is to allow C/C++ to be compiled/run on the 
> host from a server.  Not Java.  This is c-prog after all.  We are only 
> _slightly_ biased here.  ;)
>
>   

Java ? what is Java ? :)


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