ed wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:13:56 -0500
> "Brett McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2007 9:58 AM, ed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I've never used VS express, but I assume the compiler is command
>>> line, so providing you don't use the IDE there should be nothing
>>> stopping the end user. Unless the licence says other wise - in
>>> which case I'd try and tell it to use another compiler.  
>> It is an IDE. As Thomas pointed, VC++ Express is lacking several tools
>> -- ATL and MFC, for one, also no resource editor and doesn't support
>> 64-bit application development, and you can't integrate 3rd party
>> tools (unless they are ones specifically designed for VC++ Express,
>> like the new gaming kit). It does support CRL (.Net) applications,
>> though.
> 
> Yeah I have to agree now. That makes it pretty limited.

Not really.  Most of the people here are beginning programmers...which 
makes VC++ Express more than ideal for learning the language.  The 
integrated VS debugger in Express (same debugger that is in VS 
Professional) is far superior to gdb.

As to GUI design and integration, there are lots of cross-platform 
toolkits like wxWidgets that are probably better to use than MFC when 
the programmer starts doing GUI work.  Only when someone wants to do 
something completely Windows-specific, do they actually need to obtain 
the full VS compiler suite.

Since most of the people here are students, VC++ Express is more 
compiler and debugger than they'll need/use in their class work.  It is, 
IMO, the best IDE to learn with.

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