>If you happen to be already reading something other than 
>the books above, seriously consider supplementing or >replacing your book 
with the above.
which is usually not needed. There are good books on that list, but telling 
people to "replace their books," is probably not the wisest choice. There are 
plenty of good books out there, as long as they follow standards you should be 
fine.

Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
Web: tysdomain.com
email: [email protected]
My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Thomas Hruska 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [c-prog] New group member


  Dave wrote:
  > Hello to the group. My name is Dave and I'm in north-central PA. I'm 60 
years old and a newcomer to C++ programming. I used to do some basic 
programming years ago, so I do have a little knowledge base to start with, but 
the skills are very rusty!
  > 
  > My goal is not to be an application developer, except for small Windows 
apps for my own personal use.
  > 
  > I've downloaded and installed the Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Express 
edition, and would like to ask the group what would be a good beginner's guide 
for me to look over to get started.
  > 
  > Thanks, and I look forward to the information that flows through this group!
  > 
  > Dave

  "Good morning, Dave" - :)
  (Obligatory '2001: A Space Odyssey' reference...or 'Independence Day', 
  whichever)

  The best resource is a good book. This group is your second-best 
  resource - you will glean a LOT of knowledge from just lurking.

  C/C++ are not easy languages to learn. They take time, patience, and 
  perseverance, which is why C/C++ books are still better than online 
  resources (e.g. tutorials). BTW, you are off to an excellent start 
  already - better than most four year college programs.

  When you joined c-prog, you should have received an e-mail containing 
  the group welcome message. In that message was a list of books that you 
  should read. Just in case you missed the message, here is that list of 
  books again and the order in which you should be reading them:

  "Accelerated C++" by Koenig and Moo (ISBN #020170353X)
  "Safe C++ Design Principles" by Thomas Hruska
  "The C++ Standard Library" by Nicolai Josuttis (ISBN #0201379260)
  "Effective C++" by Scott Meyers (ISBN #0201924889)
  "More Effective C++" by Scott Meyers (ISBN #020163371X)

  If you are learning or looking to learn C, consider learning C++ 
  instead. It is much more versatile and offers powerful features that C 
  doesn't offer. If you happen to be already reading something other than 
  the books above, seriously consider supplementing or replacing your book 
  with the above.

  If you can't afford the books mentioned, Bruce Eckel offers "Thinking in 
  C++" for free from his website:

  http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html

  And the group owner, Thomas Hruska, has generously donated his book 
  "Safe C++ Design Principles" to c-prog group members for free:

  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/c-prog/files/Books/

  Beware any C/C++ author who does not adhere closely to the ANSI C/C++ 
  Standard. One very popular author is Yashavant Kanetkar who is the 
  author of "Let Us C". His writing may be simple to understand however 
  his code is non-ANSI Standard. Similar great writers have shown up over 
  the years who tell wonderful stories but don't adhere to the Standards 
  defined by the ANSI C/C++ committees.

  You should also obtain at least copy of a draft copy of the ANSI C/C++ 
  Standard. Draft copies are free and c-prog links to quite a few of them 
  here:

  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/c-prog/links/Standards_001012496381/

  -- 
  Thomas Hruska
  CubicleSoft President
  Ph: 517-803-4197

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