Hi Vincent, The diagram implies Model View Controller with the labels but as you said it's not attempting to describe MVC per se. Not a big deal, the diagrams are clear and simple in terms of describing the structure.
As far as the argument, I was trying to convey that there is a lot of confusion about MVC that never seems to be clarified. I see the three tiers as a data model, a constrainted view of that data model (the view) and something that drives the code that creates the view (the controller). JSPs, Servlets are a front-end for control and view elements. MVC is a good architecture whether you hook up a GUI or not. If you don't, you've still got a "view" which is why IMO the JSPs are independent. Anyway, it's way off topic from cactus:) -----Original Message----- From: Vincent Massol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:46 PM To: 'Cactus Users List' Subject: RE: Cactus MVC Architecture Hi Rod, > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Macpherson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: jeudi 1 septembre 2005 23:38 > To: Cactus > Subject: Cactus MVC Architecture > > Is Cactus repeating a common mistake in describing the MVC architecture? > > http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/features.html > > > With MVC you have a data model, a view of that data model and a > controller. The view is not visual anymore than the OSI presentation > layer is visual. The view is a presentation of a data model. The > controller is a component. That I render the control interface and the > view of my data on a JSP is fluff that lives outside of the core MVC. > > Is this miguided, correct, something in between? Actually we're not even trying to describe the MVC architecture. It was just a convenient way to explain all the places where Cargo could help in testing. I'm not sure I understand your argument but if you want to submit a better image, we'll happily replace this one with yours. Thanks -Vincent --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
