Dave Miner wrote: > Frank Ludolph wrote: >> Mike Gerdts wrote: >>> On 9/7/07, Frank Ludolph <Frank.Ludolph at sun.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dave Miner wrote: >>>> >>>>> One question, and one addition: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 1. Remove Installer language window. Installer will run in LiveCD >>>>>> system language. >>>>>> >>>>> How are you expecting that the system language will be set? The live >>>>> CD prompts for a keyboard layout while it's still in text mode since >>>>> we can't change it during the X session, but otherwise nothing will >>>>> prompt for the language, and I don't see a desktop application which >>>>> would let me do it, either. >>>>> >>>> On a LiveCD the installer is just another app, and as such runs in the >>>> same language as the desktop.This implies that the language question >>>> should be asked during startup, perhaps just before the keyboard >>>> question. Sanjay has said that due to space constraints there will >>>> only >>>> be one language on a CD (meaning there will have to be 10 different >>>> CDs). In this case it wouldn't be necessary to ask the language >>>> question, but it may also have implications on the installer - what if >>>> I'm using the English CD and want German language support? It could be >>>> downloaded from the repository during the install, but if it can't and >>>> must be manually downloaded after reboot, should we even be asking the >>>> question? >>>> >>> >>> It seems to me that the installer should assume that if the user knew >>> enough of the language to get to start the installer, the installation >>> can occur in that language. This implies that there wouldn't need to >>> be a pre-installer language selection. >> Agreed. By "startup" I was referring to CD bootup. The language >> question would be asked during the startup prior to the appearance of >> the desktop so that the desktop itself (menus, dialogs, etc) are in >> the language specified by the user. The installer would run in the >> same language. > > First, going back to your initial response, I don't think we've > definitively concluded whether we'll have a CD per language, since > we're still sorting out packages and sizes, but even if that was the > case, what about DVD's where we obviously would have the option of > multiple languages? We need to be able to ask, even if we don't. > > With respect to Mike's assertion that we can assume language knowledge > based on the user getting the install running, that only works if > we've actually had an explicit question during install, or we've got > an implicit selection based on single-language media. I can get all > sorts of things to run by randomly clicking icons on a desktop without > understanding them, after all. > > So it seems we need to plan on asking a language question somewhere. > Replacing the installer question with a general one is fine, but my > original point is really that you need to specify where it will be > asked and it needs to end up on someone's task list. It's not spec'ed > or scheduled at this point. I fully agree that it needs to be on the task list. I'll add it as a requirement for 3/08.
Frank
