Hi Mike,

Thank you for your feedback. Comments inline...

> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Sarah Jelinek <Sarah.Jelinek at sun.com> 
> wrote:
>   
>> Hi All,
>>
>> There are updates posted to the Caiman Unified Design Page. Specifically,
>> addition of a description of this project, an overview of the deliverables
>> expected.
>>
>> Project web page:
>> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/CUD
>>
>> Also, we posted a new document:
>>
>> Current Caiman Components: common and redundant functionality(with
>> differences noted):
>> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/CUD/caiman_common.pdf
>>
>> This document describes the areas of common and overlapping functionality
>> offered by the current Caiman components, grouped in functionality groups.
>> The differences are also noted for completeness and to ensure that during
>> the design phase we account for these.
>>
>> We are currently working on a draft document that will list the requirements
>> for a Caiman unified install engine. This will be posted to the alias and we
>> will have a meeting to discuss these next week.
>>
>> Please review the new document and send feedback and questions to the alias.
>>     
>
> Things that seem to be missing are the ips brand zone installer and
> the text-based installer.  Perhaps this is because they do not have
> current implementations under the Caiman brand.  However, I think that
> it is important that continued work in this area try to unify them
> into a consistent architecture.
>   
Ok, good point. I will take a look at include overlapping functionality 
in our document from these two products.


> The historical lack of an automated installer for zones (e.g.
> "jumpstart for zones") has inspired many custom implementations.
>
> zonemgr
> - http://mydataexchange.net/zonemgr/
> JetZONES
> - http://wikis.sun.com/display/JET/Home
> NewZone
> - 
> http://unixsysadmin.net/2008/06/24/quick-and-easy-way-to-build-solaris-10-solaris-express-zones/
> Consolidation tool
> - http://blogs.sun.com/allanp/entry/consolidation_tool_release_info
>
> I have heard through the grapevine that a key reason for not
> implementing zones has been the lack of a standard automated
> installation tool included with Solaris.
>   

I will look at these as well. Thank you for pointing these out.

> Currently the ipkg brand has its own text-based installer[1], if you
> would like to call it that.
>
> 1. http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/pkg/gate/src/brand/pkgcreatezone
>
> I suspect (but do not know) that its command line arguments bear
> little to no resemblance to the Caiman install tools.
>
> There seems to be work scheduled for a vmdk-ish[2] implementation of
> zones.  I can't help but think that this should look nearly identical
> to something created by the distro constructor.  But just because it
> is created inside of some tricked-out lofi device doesn't mean that it
> is all that special.  Presumably the traditional ips zone installer
> and the new vmdk-ish zone installer should be leveraging the same good
> work that is done for the GUI, AI, DC, libbe, and the text installer.
>
> 2. http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zones-discuss/2009-May/005032.html
>
>   
I will look at this as well. And ask Jerry Jelinek what he knows about 
this.



Thanks again for the input!

sarah

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