Hi Rudolf, * Rudolf Kutina (Rudolf.Kutina at Sun.COM) wrote: > Hi Alok, > > See comments inline: > > Alok Aggarwal wrote: > >Hi Rudolf, > > > >On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Rudolf Kutina wrote: > > > >>Some of the proposed solutions can be "hands on" evaluated in VA > >>Live-CD, which I design for easy building OpenSolaris 2096 JeOS. > >> > >>See mote in thread: > >> > >>AI Client on Live-CD - 10 OpenSolaris 200906 VA Live-CD Main > >>Design Concepts > >> > >>I personally think, based on my last month experience with AI > >>Client, then using very limited AI network boot based > >>environment in VMC, where we need Live-CD media with good "drop > >>to shell" environment will significantly limit users ability to > >>track and debug issues. I will consider this option as only a > >>very first starting point in "Proof-Of-Concept" process, which > >>need to be replaced later. > > > >The VMC project intends to use AI in a media > >boot environment. So, atleast the boot environment > >is very similar to that of a LiveCD but without > >booting to a desktop. > Well, as part of preparation of JeOS I try to define some possible > OpenSolaris reduction strategies. > I think then what we need for VMC target Level 5 Pure CLI > environment (Command line one with no X and GUI libs dependencies), > this is same level which I target with JeOS design. This is the > reason then JeOS like set of packages can be a good as starting > point for experiments.
The VMC project will need to define a 'base' if you will in terms of installed packages for the virtual machine being created that can then be built upon. I expect it's going to be pretty minimal (no X or desktop for instance). I intend to look more into your JeOS work to get a starting point for that base. > Reducing OpenSolaris (Part1: Approaches and Strategies) > http://blogs.sun.com/VirtualGuru/entry/reducing_opensolaris_part1_approaches_and > > AI Live-CD environment must be created to allow perform common user > tasks, so what will users do with VMC related Live-CD media when > when they will "Drop to Shell" ? I'm not sure I understand what you mean by when a user with VMC related Live-CD media 'drops to shell'. The AI image that the VMC project is going to use to create virtual machines is essentially going to be an implementation detail to the user (for the most part). In the basic use case, a user creating a virtual machine image will modify a DC manifest and specify what packages they want installed, some install related parameters and possibly a few virtual machine specific parameters (disk size, networking settings, stuff like that) and then start the build which will first generate an AI image and then create a VM and boot it using the AI image so it can be installed and then export the VM. The installation into VirtualBox will be an entirely hands off process requiring zero interaction from the user creating a virtual machine image (it has to be). So in the process of creating a virtual machine image, there won't be any 'dropping to a shell'. Cheers, -- Glenn
