Frank Ludolph wrote:
> Jack Schwartz wrote:
>> Hi Sarah.
>>
>> On 07/31/09 10:33, Sarah Jelinek wrote:
>>> Hi Jack,
>>>
>>> I am a little late to this party, but I do have a question/comment 
>>> which I believe have not been addressed in the current thread on this.
>>>
>>> -Use Case 2:
>>>> At boot time, user is presented with the "main menu":
>>>>     1. Run installer
>>>>     2. Install missing drivers
>>>>     3. Shell
>>>>     4. Reboot
>>>>   
>>> So, in call cases is the user going to be presented with the 
>>> 'install missing drivers' option? Or only if we have found drivers 
>>> are missing at boot time? I am asking because having this option 
>>> always there, implies to me anyway as a user, that I have missing 
>>> drivers I need to install. Is there any way around having this 
>>> option when there are not missing drivers?
>> When I talked about this with Frank, we decided to have this menu 
>> look similar to the S10 install menu.
>>
>> I just booted S10 and see that it says "Apply driver updates", not 
>> "Install missing drivers".  I'll update my document with this 
>> change.  I think making this change will address your concerns about 
>> implying (and not so subtly :) ) that drivers are missing when they 
>> may not be.
>>
>> To answer your question, though, we could implement something to show 
>> the "Apply Driver Updates" menu selection conditionally.  We could 
>> potentially implement the text-mode DDU with a silent mode like we 
>> are planning for the GUI-based DDU.  This would scan devices like the 
>> DDU does today, but in the background.  The text installer could use 
>> this information to determine whether or not to display the "Apply 
>> Driver Updates"  menu item.  Not sure if this will take away needed 
>> functionality though;  if someone hot-plugged a PCI controller card 
>> while the system was up, a new device could potentially show up after 
>> the scan determined not to show "Apply Driver Updates".  I suppose 
>> the user could just reboot...
>>
>> I think from a user-convenience standpoint, always showing the menu 
>> item, but having it say "Apply Driver Updates" is the best choice.  
>> What do you think?
>>
> The menu item might also be "Install additional drivers." Sarah was 
> correct that the text should be as clear as possible, but it doesn't 
> need to be finalized in this spec.

Actually, it was more about having to offer it all the time, as opposed 
to the specific wording of the item.  I get Jack's concern about having 
a loss of functionality:

"if someone hot-plugged a PCI controller card while the system was up, a 
new device could potentially show up after the scan determined not to 
show "Apply Driver Updates".  I suppose the user could just reboot... "

I don't want a loss of functionality. I am concerned about making this 
always an option as it could be confusing to users. I am ok with 
whatever Frank feels is the best user experience. I do have one question 
though.. why are we not doing something similar for the GUI, that is 
always having a menu option for this. What is the difference in expected 
user experience?

thanks,
sarah
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>
> Frank


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