On 02/ 8/10 11:39 AM, Darren Reed wrote:
> Dave Miner wrote:
>> On 02/ 8/10 10:59 AM, Darren Reed wrote:
>>> Dave Miner wrote:
>>>> On 02/ 6/10 08:35 PM, Mike Gerdts wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Darren Reed<Darren.Reed at sun.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>> I have one question for you and this proposal from Sanjay:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happens when an application stores peristent data
>>>>>> under a shared directory in /var and there are multiple BEs
>>>>>> that have their own version of this application and the
>>>>>> binary data format is not compatible?
>>>>>
>>>>> <sarcasm>You write a postinstall script that does the conversion as
>>>>> the relevant package is installed.</sarcasm>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You provide a conversion method that's run as an SMF actuator! :-)
>>>>
>>>>> More seriously, I'm not really sure.  I think that a snapshot is
>>>>> important to be able to provide fallback for when things go wrong and
>>>>> for when some sort of a data conversion is required and fallback is
>>>>> needed.  This should not be as encumbered as a boot environment
>>>>> snapshot/clone.  Hopefully the occurrences where such conversions are
>>>>> needed are kept to a minimum.  Does data exist to suggest that this is
>>>>> a frequent occurrence?  Does it typically happen with data in /var or
>>>>> data that is more likely to be kept in a pool other than rpool?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems to be very infrequent, and there are other options, such as
>>>> the apache/apache2 scheme, that allow you to perhaps create a new
>>>> configuration based on the existing without disturbing the existing.
>>>
>>> On what basis do you say "very infrequent"?
>>> How many 3rd party applications have you surveyed?
>>> How many 3rd party applications that use /var have you surveyed?
>>>
>>
>> On the basis of the proposal, which is for a limited set of things
>> that have been quite stable over time to be moved into the shared dataset.
>
> Having read your response, to me it sounds like there has not been
> enough research to warrant the entirity of /var being shared and that
> Sanjay's proposed approach (of making known, safe, data shared) is a
> much wiser approach.
>

That is the approach we are proposing.  Nothing I have written is meant 
to advocate or imply otherwise.

Dave

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