clemos wrote: > about emacs, I've been hearing of its power, and trying it sometimes > for years now, but without much success. Then I took a month to really > learn the way it works and the shortcuts and all. Finally, I found > that the multiple modes (PHP/HTML/JS ...) was weird and that emacs > wasn't really worth the time investment, at least when it comes to web > programming...
I pretty much agree with you, clemos. If you're only interested in web programming Emacs may not be exactly what you're looking for. It really is *extremely* powerful but it requires a lifelong commitment to master it. Mastering it involves learning Lisp and learning Lisp will be a profound experience that will (hopefully) make you a better engineer for the rest of your life or at least change the way you look at programming and language use. Seriously, though, there is no comparison. Emacs is about working most efficiently and as you see fit. vi is fine for quick edits or when Emacs isn't available. There is something to admire in vi's simple and elegant editor commands. Eclipse it's a bloated hog of an application suite that took some good ideas from Emacs and then promptly broke them (with a few exceptions). The standard Eclipse install on one of my laptops runs about 160MB and takes about four times as long as Emacs to start and a whole lot more memory to run. There's really no way you can run it over a slow terminal link, either. But I'm an Emacs nut and you probably shouldn't be listening to me :-) Emacs probably isn't worth your time if you're looking for a point & click, dialog and menu-driven experience. Please note that I don't intend to slam people who don't use Emacs or anything like that. To each his own. Cheers, Matt --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
