Hello, Concerning the PHP 4 'concessions' Jamie addressed:
http://phpadvent.org/2010/usage-statistics-by-ilia-alshanetsky In this scenario you even have to add the percentage of PHP 5.1, since a lot of the other mentioned frameworks require PHP 5.2+. So it's even a 30% 'market' share, that CakePHP 1.3.x inherits as a in my oppinion dominant position as a framework for PHP4. I can remeber that after the move from trac to lighthouse PHP 4 tickets were still filed there every now and then. On 20 Mai, 19:35, Jamie <jamie....@gmail.com> wrote: > Plus the concessions required for PHP 4, such as not being able to > 'lazy load' objects (e.g. associated models) on demand. > > On May 20, 12:02 am, Miles J <mileswjohn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The automagic is the slow part in my opinion. > > > On May 19, 1:08 am, "Bogdan I. Bursuc" <bogdanbursu...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Plus there is the features a framework can offer. If a framework has 3 > > > classes > > > don't think it helps u that much. But a framework like Cake which has a > > > lot of > > > automagic which if you understand is very usefull. Might speed things up. > > > > -- > > > Thanks, > > > Bogdan Bursuc! > > > > > I also just read the summary: > > > > > Final Advice: There is more to consider than speed when selecting a PHP > > > > framework; other factors such as security, ease of installation and > > > > database support have to be examined as well. Other frameworks may be > > > > slower but have greater and wider community support, in case you have > > > > some > > > > trouble with the framework there are lots of users that could help who > > > > have working experience with that framework. This is true with CakePHP, > > > > Symfony and Zend framework, all of which are very popular among PHP > > > > developers. > > > > > Jeremy Burns > > > > Class Outfit > > > > > jeremybu...@classoutfit.com > > > >http://www.classoutfit.com > > > > > On 19 May 2011, at 08:56, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit wrote: > > > > > Put Michael Schumacher at the wheel of a Skoda and I bet he could > > > > > beat me > > > > > in Ferarri. Benchmarks are mildy interesting, at best. > > > > > > Jeremy Burns > > > > > Class Outfit > > > > > > jeremybu...@classoutfit.com > > > > >http://www.classoutfit.com > > > > > > On 19 May 2011, at 08:53, Bogdan I. Bursuc wrote: > > > > >> I've been using Cake 2.0 since 2.0-dev and I say that we should wait > > > > >> for > > > > >> the final release and then see the benchmarks. It's way faster than > > > > >> 1.3. And with so many new cool features. > > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > >> Bogdan Bursuc! > > > > > >>> On May 19, 7:30 am, mutabor <kostya.stepa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >>>> Hi guys, > > > > > >>>> Lately, I came across another benchmark of popular PHP frameworks: > > > > > >>>>http://www.devshed.com/c/a/PHP/7-PHP-Frameworks-Tested-For-Speed/2/ > > > > > >>>> This is approx. 3rd or 4th benchmark of this type that I came > > > > >>>> across > > > > >>>> during last couple of month and in every benchmark Cake shows > > > > >>>> pretty > > > > >>>> poor results. > > > > > >>>> As a head of a company that specializes in CakePHP, I am very > > > > >>>> worried > > > > >>>> about Cake's future. Because even all of these benchmarks are > > > > >>>> wrong / > > > > >>>> have incorrect results, our customers still trust them and I start > > > > >>>> hearing "Anything, but not Cake, please, look at this > > > > >>>> benchmark ....seems it's not a good piece of software" from our > > > > >>>> customers. > > > > > >>> The usual problem with these benchmarks - is they don't set cake up > > > > >>> correctly in the first place (they use it out of the box; cake ships > > > > >>> in debug mode, with the session enabled etc.). And correcting that > > > > >>> is > > > > >>> in the hands of the person publishing their "results". > > > > > >>> But: How many of your clients use hello world apps? > > > > > >>>> Something should be done, even if there is no opportunity to > > > > >>>> increase > > > > >>>> the speed, I guess Cake should apply some kind of PR actions :) > > > > > >>> The best thing that could be done in your eyes is for someone to > > > > >>> dedicate a bit of time making cake faster - if only you had a few > > > > >>> developers you could call upon to do that ... :) > > > > > >>> AD -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
