I tried it earlier by adding the following to the end of the beforeSave() in 
our Users model:

                if (!isset($this->data['User']['file'])) {
                        $this->data['User']['file'] = null;
                }

But when I tested it I discovered that the beforeSave() in the Media Coupler 
was firing before the beforeSave() in our Users model, so it was too late to 
add the empty 'file' key to the array as the 'User' had already been unset by 
the Coupler. I've therefore had to roll the change back and go back to the 
drawing board for now.

Keith Gorman
Class Outfit

keithgor...@classoutfit.com
www.classoutfit.com

On 29 Feb 2012, at 15:21, jeremyharris wrote:

I probably didn't take your reply the right way. Hopefully I wasn't too harsh 
myself.

Anyway, hopefully you'll get a response from David soon. Did you ever get to 
try out passing an empty 'file' key in the form (i.e., a hidden field)? That 
way, the key would exist and the Coupler wouldn't unset the data. I don't think 
this is a very elegant solution either, but I was curious if you tried it out.

On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:41:39 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Burns wrote:
Gosh my reply sounded harsh on you Jeremy - that wasn't my intention. We've 
commented out the line that unsets the data and it *all seems fine*, which also 
feels dirty. The user records are saving correctly, we can subsequently add 
images to user records and all other dedicated image tables that use the 
coupler are functioning too. I did reach out to David yesterday, hoping to 
learn more from him so that we can implement this properly and will report back.

Jeremy Burns
Class Outfit

http://www.classoutfit.com

On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:15:25, jeremyharris wrote:

> I didn't say I agreed with how it worked, I was just explaining what I think 
> the author's intended use case was. The question was if you were missing a 
> setting or doing anything wrong. You weren't, so I just threw out some ideas 
> based on how the Coupler works. Feel free to take it up with the author or 
> create a Coupler that works for you.
> 
> I'm glad that an empty image doesn't create garbage data, that thought was 
> based off of what the Coupler does down the road (check the file and populate 
> dirname and basename).
> 
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:06:23 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Burns wrote:
> I understand what you are saying but I don't think it's the full answer. It's 
> a perfectly valid use case to have a table that has an optional image in it 
> without the need to have a separate join table. The absence of the image 
> doesn't create any garbage data; the user row is still valid. A bio snap for 
> a user is good example. For the plugin to simply clear the whole data array 
> because the optional image fields aren't populated is nuts. If the fields are 
> empty simply return true and let the main model get on with its work.
> 
> Jeremy Burns
> Class Outfit
> 
> http://www.classoutfit.com
> 
> On 28 Feb 2012, at 15:45:29, jeremyharris wrote:
> 
>> It should only unset the data if you are creating the User and it's missing 
>> the 'file' key. If you are updating, you shouldn't *need* the 'file' key.
>> 
>> That said, you can probably get away with passing an empty (or a path to a 
>> default image) file key when you are creating the User using a hidden field. 
>> This should allow the coupler to continue with the save. This may save some 
>> empty garbage data that is probably unwanted.
>> 
>> The other solution would be to detach the Coupler behavior at runtime when 
>> you don't want it to "force" you to have an image.
>> 
>> The whole point of the Coupler is to tightly couple the physical image to 
>> the record, so if the image doesn't exist neither should the record. I tend 
>> to create a separate table for attachments for this very reason. A user 
>> should be allowed to exist without an image.
>> 
>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:42:11 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Burns wrote:
>> I'm using David Persson's media plugin. I have a users table that 
>> contains the fields necessary to link to an image file, but a user 
>> does not have to have an image. When I include the Media.Coupler 
>> behaviour in the User model User->create always fails on User->save 
>> when the user does not have an image because of the beforeSave in 
>> coupler.php: 
>> 
>>         function beforeSave(&$Model) { 
>>                 if (!$Model->exists()) { 
>>                         if (!isset($Model->data[$Model->alias]['file'])) { 
>>                                  unset($Model->data[$Model->alias]);  <<<--- 
>> clears down my User 
>> data 
>>                                 return true; 
>>                         } 
>>                 } else { 
>> 
>> This is unsetting the User data because the file key is missing. If I 
>> comment out the unset my User->save is successful. The Media.Coupler 
>> is working perfectly well for another table that hasMany images in an 
>> associated table. 
>> 
>> Is there a setting I need to configure or am I doing something else 
>> wrong?
>> 
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> 
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:06:23 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Burns wrote:
> I understand what you are saying but I don't think it's the full answer. It's 
> a perfectly valid use case to have a table that has an optional image in it 
> without the need to have a separate join table. The absence of the image 
> doesn't create any garbage data; the user row is still valid. A bio snap for 
> a user is good example. For the plugin to simply clear the whole data array 
> because the optional image fields aren't populated is nuts. If the fields are 
> empty simply return true and let the main model get on with its work.
> 
> Jeremy Burns
> Class Outfit
> 
> http://www.classoutfit.com
> 
> On 28 Feb 2012, at 15:45:29, jeremyharris wrote:
> 
>> It should only unset the data if you are creating the User and it's missing 
>> the 'file' key. If you are updating, you shouldn't *need* the 'file' key.
>> 
>> That said, you can probably get away with passing an empty (or a path to a 
>> default image) file key when you are creating the User using a hidden field. 
>> This should allow the coupler to continue with the save. This may save some 
>> empty garbage data that is probably unwanted.
>> 
>> The other solution would be to detach the Coupler behavior at runtime when 
>> you don't want it to "force" you to have an image.
>> 
>> The whole point of the Coupler is to tightly couple the physical image to 
>> the record, so if the image doesn't exist neither should the record. I tend 
>> to create a separate table for attachments for this very reason. A user 
>> should be allowed to exist without an image.
>> 
>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:42:11 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Burns wrote:
>> I'm using David Persson's media plugin. I have a users table that 
>> contains the fields necessary to link to an image file, but a user 
>> does not have to have an image. When I include the Media.Coupler 
>> behaviour in the User model User->create always fails on User->save 
>> when the user does not have an image because of the beforeSave in 
>> coupler.php: 
>> 
>>         function beforeSave(&$Model) { 
>>                 if (!$Model->exists()) { 
>>                         if (!isset($Model->data[$Model->alias]['file'])) { 
>>                                  unset($Model->data[$Model->alias]);  <<<--- 
>> clears down my User 
>> data 
>>                                 return true; 
>>                         } 
>>                 } else { 
>> 
>> This is unsetting the User data because the file key is missing. If I 
>> comment out the unset my User->save is successful. The Media.Coupler 
>> is working perfectly well for another table that hasMany images in an 
>> associated table. 
>> 
>> Is there a setting I need to configure or am I doing something else 
>> wrong?
>> 
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On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:41:39 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Burns wrote:
Gosh my reply sounded harsh on you Jeremy - that wasn't my intention. We've 
commented out the line that unsets the data and it *all seems fine*, which also 
feels dirty. The user records are saving correctly, we can subsequently add 
images to user records and all other dedicated image tables that use the 
coupler are functioning too. I did reach out to David yesterday, hoping to 
learn more from him so that we can implement this properly and will report back.

Jeremy Burns
Class Outfit

http://www.classoutfit.com

On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:15:25, jeremyharris wrote:

> I didn't say I agreed with how it worked, I was just explaining what I think 
> the author's intended use case was. The question was if you were missing a 
> setting or doing anything wrong. You weren't, so I just threw out some ideas 
> based on how the Coupler works. Feel free to take it up with the author or 
> create a Coupler that works for you.
> 
> I'm glad that an empty image doesn't create garbage data, that thought was 
> based off of what the Coupler does down the road (check the file and populate 
> dirname and basename).
> 
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:06:23 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Burns wrote:
> I understand what you are saying but I don't think it's the full answer. It's 
> a perfectly valid use case to have a table that has an optional image in it 
> without the need to have a separate join table. The absence of the image 
> doesn't create any garbage data; the user row is still valid. A bio snap for 
> a user is good example. For the plugin to simply clear the whole data array 
> because the optional image fields aren't populated is nuts. If the fields are 
> empty simply return true and let the main model get on with its work.
> 
> Jeremy Burns
> Class Outfit
> 
> http://www.classoutfit.com
> 
> On 28 Feb 2012, at 15:45:29, jeremyharris wrote:
> 
>> It should only unset the data if you are creating the User and it's missing 
>> the 'file' key. If you are updating, you shouldn't *need* the 'file' key.
>> 
>> That said, you can probably get away with passing an empty (or a path to a 
>> default image) file key when you are creating the User using a hidden field. 
>> This should allow the coupler to continue with the save. This may save some 
>> empty garbage data that is probably unwanted.
>> 
>> The other solution would be to detach the Coupler behavior at runtime when 
>> you don't want it to "force" you to have an image.
>> 
>> The whole point of the Coupler is to tightly couple the physical image to 
>> the record, so if the image doesn't exist neither should the record. I tend 
>> to create a separate table for attachments for this very reason. A user 
>> should be allowed to exist without an image.
>> 
>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:42:11 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Burns wrote:
>> I'm using David Persson's media plugin. I have a users table that 
>> contains the fields necessary to link to an image file, but a user 
>> does not have to have an image. When I include the Media.Coupler 
>> behaviour in the User model User->create always fails on User->save 
>> when the user does not have an image because of the beforeSave in 
>> coupler.php: 
>> 
>>         function beforeSave(&$Model) { 
>>                 if (!$Model->exists()) { 
>>                         if (!isset($Model->data[$Model->alias]['file'])) { 
>>                                  unset($Model->data[$Model->alias]);  <<<--- 
>> clears down my User 
>> data 
>>                                 return true; 
>>                         } 
>>                 } else { 
>> 
>> This is unsetting the User data because the file key is missing. If I 
>> comment out the unset my User->save is successful. The Media.Coupler 
>> is working perfectly well for another table that hasMany images in an 
>> associated table. 
>> 
>> Is there a setting I need to configure or am I doing something else 
>> wrong?
>> 
>> -- 
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>> http://tv.cakephp.org 
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> 
> 
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:06:23 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Burns wrote:
> I understand what you are saying but I don't think it's the full answer. It's 
> a perfectly valid use case to have a table that has an optional image in it 
> without the need to have a separate join table. The absence of the image 
> doesn't create any garbage data; the user row is still valid. A bio snap for 
> a user is good example. For the plugin to simply clear the whole data array 
> because the optional image fields aren't populated is nuts. If the fields are 
> empty simply return true and let the main model get on with its work.
> 
> Jeremy Burns
> Class Outfit
> 
> http://www.classoutfit.com
> 
> On 28 Feb 2012, at 15:45:29, jeremyharris wrote:
> 
>> It should only unset the data if you are creating the User and it's missing 
>> the 'file' key. If you are updating, you shouldn't *need* the 'file' key.
>> 
>> That said, you can probably get away with passing an empty (or a path to a 
>> default image) file key when you are creating the User using a hidden field. 
>> This should allow the coupler to continue with the save. This may save some 
>> empty garbage data that is probably unwanted.
>> 
>> The other solution would be to detach the Coupler behavior at runtime when 
>> you don't want it to "force" you to have an image.
>> 
>> The whole point of the Coupler is to tightly couple the physical image to 
>> the record, so if the image doesn't exist neither should the record. I tend 
>> to create a separate table for attachments for this very reason. A user 
>> should be allowed to exist without an image.
>> 
>> On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:42:11 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Burns wrote:
>> I'm using David Persson's media plugin. I have a users table that 
>> contains the fields necessary to link to an image file, but a user 
>> does not have to have an image. When I include the Media.Coupler 
>> behaviour in the User model User->create always fails on User->save 
>> when the user does not have an image because of the beforeSave in 
>> coupler.php: 
>> 
>>         function beforeSave(&$Model) { 
>>                 if (!$Model->exists()) { 
>>                         if (!isset($Model->data[$Model->alias]['file'])) { 
>>                                  unset($Model->data[$Model->alias]);  <<<--- 
>> clears down my User 
>> data 
>>                                 return true; 
>>                         } 
>>                 } else { 
>> 
>> This is unsetting the User data because the file key is missing. If I 
>> comment out the unset my User->save is successful. The Media.Coupler 
>> is working perfectly well for another table that hasMany images in an 
>> associated table. 
>> 
>> Is there a setting I need to configure or am I doing something else 
>> wrong?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials 
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