On Friday, July 6, 2012 6:12:47 AM UTC-4:30, tigr wrote: > > Hi! > > First of all, big kudos to the developers of CakePHP. It is an excellent, > well thought out and well engineered framework. It does indeed look very > traditional and conservative and that is a Good Thing(tm). That's why I see > with horror the mention of moving to the objects returned by models from > queries. Would you leave them alone, please? We work in a data-centric > environment here and there is nothing better than associative arrays to do > that. Please, leave data alone and better improve the handling of data > arrays where the effects of various calls are not obvious. That will be a > much better deal. I do not expect that many people selected CakePHP in the > hope that it would move to object-oriented data. There are other frameworks > for that. > > You will be able to work with the table object and have arrays returned back. Models (rows) will be objects, though.
> Thank you. > Albert aka Tigr > > On Friday, July 6, 2012 4:36:03 AM UTC+2, José Lorenzo wrote: >> >> Since its creation, more than 7 years ago, CakePHP has grown with a life >> of its own. Its main goal has always been to empower developers with tools >> that are both easy to learn and use, leverage great libraries requiring low >> documentation and low dependencies too. We've had several big releases >> along these years and an ever growing community. Being one of the most >> popular frameworks out there and probably the first one (!) we have also >> gotten a lot of criticism from the developer community in general. We have, >> though, accepted it and learnt from our mistakes to keep building the best >> PHP framework there is. >> >> CakePHP is known for having a very slow pace of adopting new stuff and it >> has served very well to its community. Back when we were doing version 2.0 >> we decided to hold on version 5.2 of PHP for multiple reasons and despite >> it didn't let us innovate as much as we wished to, it was an excellent >> choice given the general environment regarding hosting solutions and >> general adoption of PHP 5.3. A look back into the past reminded us that we >> were big innovators in PHP, bringing features to developers that few dreamt >> possible to do in this language. Now, it's time to look ahead in future and >> decide on staying in our comfort zone or take back our leading position as >> innovators. >> >> So it is with great excitement that we announce we are putting our our >> efforts in bringing you the next major release of CakePHP. Version 3.0 will >> leverage the new features in PHP 5.4 and will include an important change >> in our models and database system. CakePHP 3.0 will not be ready less than >> 6 or 8 months and we reckon that, given the rise of cheap cloud hosting >> solutions and upcoming release of new operating system versions, there is >> no better time to jump on the most current stable version of PHP. >> >> As you may already know, PHP 5.4 offers awesome features that would >> introduce useful new concepts and interesting solutions to old problems. >> Closure binding, traits, multibyte support are tools we see of great >> usefulness for properly implemented advanced framework features we've had >> in mind for a long time. Also new syntax sugar added to the language will >> make it more pleasant to write both small and complex applications with the >> framework and a always welcomed free performance increase. >> >> We have a young but already well defined road map for what we want to >> accomplish in next release and you are invited to contribute and suggest >> what's next: >> >> - Drop support for 5.2.x and support 5.4+ only >> - Add proper namespaces for all classes. This will make it easier to >> reuse classes outside CakePHP and to use external libraries and finally >> no >> chances of collisions between your app classes and core ones. >> - Use traits were possible and makes sense >> - Improve bootstrapping process to allow more developer control and >> better performance >> - Model layer rewrite: >> - Models to return objects from queries >> - Datamapper-like paradigm >> - Richer query API >> - Support for any database type >> - Support for more database drivers both PDO and native >> - Improve Router: >> - Make it faster >> - Remove named parameters >> - Add support for named routes >> - Smarter router prefixes >> - Shorter url syntax >> >> As you may imagine most of the time will be spent or rewriting the model >> layer, but it will also be one of the most powerful features CakePHP 3.0 >> will have. It's new architecture based on PHP 5.4 capabilities will offer >> an easier and more powerful set of tools to build web applications in no >> time. >> >> If you are already as excited as we are this all this new stuff coming, >> you definitely should meet us on next CakeFest <http://cakefest.org/> we'll >> be talking about the future of CakePHP and hacking our way through to bring >> you a dev release as soon as possible. Wouldn't it be lovely to attend to >> awesome talks, workshops and also be part of the group deciding initial >> architecture for next major version of the framework? Make sure you book >> your tickets before we run out of them! >> >> We're always looking for different people having a vision on software >> development, are you interested in helping out? There is no better time to >> start sending patches and become one of the core team! >> > -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
