Mark wouldn't it be possible to keep track of these changes somehow via 
debug kit? Save the original keys to session and then do the same 
comparison with the data that the security component does but without the 
hashing but an array diff instead? 

On Friday, September 12, 2014 4:32:32 AM UTC+2, mark_story wrote:
>
> One of the issues with the field hashing is that SecurityComponent doesn't 
> know what is wrong either. It just knows that the hash of the data does not 
> match what was generated in the past.
>
> -Mark
>
> On Monday, 8 September 2014 21:47:05 UTC-4, #2Will wrote:
>>
>> I've got an app i have been maintaining for a while now.  The security 
>> component causes more headaches than anything else.  In fact, because 
>> cakephp is so nice to work with, i think Security Component (SC) causes all 
>> the headaches...
>>
>> I've read through the docs a fair bit, i have bits of code scattered 
>> around turning off the SC all over the place, which makes me feel sick from 
>> 2 points of view:  
>>
>> 1.  What a mess
>> 2.  No SC == not great security. 
>>
>>
>> One issue is it doesn't seem to give back enough detail on EXACTLY what 
>> went wrong.  
>>
>> This morning a form that has no JS has decided to blackhole even though 
>> i'm applying the following fugly hack to ask it to leave me alone....
>>
>>
>> $this->Security->allowedControllers = array("people");
>>     if ( in_array($this->action, array('edit' ,  'simport'))){
>>       $this->Security->validatePost = false;
>>  }
>>
>>
>> I email myself every time these occur.  With "details" of the error. 
>>  Which more or less amount to $type  = "auth" - which according to the docs 
>> means:
>>
>> "Indicates a form validation error, or a controller/action mismatch 
>> error."
>>
>> well, i  / JS hasn't messed with the form (that's what form validation is 
>> about right?) and that is being disabled anyway,  and it's showing the form 
>> in the action simport and posting to that action, all in the same 
>> controller.  
>>
>> adding this deeply depressing line of code makes my basic form work:
>>  $this->Components->unload('Security');
>>
>> How can I get much better details of the error? How can I work with SC in 
>> a better way so it is generally on, not disabled around the site for 
>> assorted poorly understood reasons..?
>>
>> W
>>
>>
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