Thanks, I thought that this is where I may get some help over the new 
'features' or ways of working in 3.xx, that I do not understand, and not 
told to go and read up on PHP - that's actually quite dismissive and 
patronising. What I actually need to understand is what you've done to Cake 
3.xx. because I do not understand your new documentation - sorry for being 
so thick. I may be mistaken, but I thought that cake got it's name because 
using the framework was a 'piece of cake' i.e. simple to use - I'm afraid 
as a user of cake that this is no longer the case :(

I do understand 2.xx and its' documentation... not 3.xx

A a couple of examples, in 2.xx I could do this

$key = $this->User->field('temp_key')

now I have to do this

/* something else needs to go here, but I haven't worked it out yet 
 because I keep getting errors*/
$key = $users->find()->extract('temp_key')

another example is that I could do this

if ($this->User->validates(array('fieldList' => array('email'))))
{

}

now I have to do this

$users = TableRegistry::get('Users');
$user = $users->newEntity($this->request->data());
$valid = $users->validate($user, ['email']);

if ($valid) {

}

Is this progress?

With regards to square brackets, (now that I've looked it up), you could 
have simply said that in PHP 5.4 square brackets are a short syntax for 
array(), and whilst the old method will not be removed, we've decide to use 
them. I would have understood that - so I'm obviously not that thick.

If we were all programmers to your standard, we wouldn't need to use a 
framework, but a framework *should* remove the hard work...

Thanks for the reply.

Dave


On Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:03:00 UTC+1, José Lorenzo wrote:
>
> I think to read a bit more of how php works, it will help you understand 
> much better how to work with CakePHP. I don't know a good tutorial for 
> learning PHP, though.
> You can also google about the new features in the language since PHP 5.3, 
> specially the changes in 5.4 since you look confused about the use of 
> square brackets.
>
> On Sunday, September 21, 2014 7:43:03 PM UTC+2, Dave Edwards wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, but neither seem to work...
>>
>> You suggested, $allTitles = $articles->find()->extract('title');
>>
>> I tried $users->find()->extract('temp_key') but gives an error of 
>> Call to a member function find() on a non-object
>>
>> You suggested $this->User->validates(array('fieldList' => array('email', 
>> 'password')))
>>
>> I tried $this->User->validates(array('fieldList' => array('email'))) but 
>> gives an error of
>> Unknown method "validates"
>> I wouldn't have thought that the second solution would have worked anyway 
>> as 3.xx seems to have done away with the use of the word array in favour of 
>> square brackets. why I don't know?
>>
>> In fact, I've just found an entry on validating in controllers in '
>> http://book.cakephp.org/3.0/en/orm/table-objects.html' why this isn't in 
>> 'http://book.cakephp.org/3.0/en/core-libraries/validation.html', I again 
>> don't know. This seems to be a common theme with the new docs, with a lot 
>> of useful information scattered across the docs in many different places 
>> and not always where you'd expect to find it!
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sunday, 21 September 2014 13:29:55 UTC+1, Dr. Tarique Sani wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> There are several ways to achieve what you want and they are all in the 
>>> docs. Quoting a few lines from the V3 Book
>>>
>>> $allTitles = $articles->find()->extract('title'); //you can add a 
>>> ->where() to this 
>>>
>>> $this->User->validates(array('fieldList' => array('email', 'password')))
>>>
>>> Yes your controller looks just about right and it is very easy to 
>>> understand what to expect as I read further. 
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> T
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dave Edwards <goo...@bubbletoonz.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to write an app in 3.xx using functionality that I have 
>>>> previously used in 2.xx but despite scouring the docs, I cannot find the 
>>>> answers. Apologies if they are in there, but there seems to be  5x the 
>>>> amount of documentation especially around the new ORM.
>>>>
>>>> In 2.xx I could easily find the value of a single field e.g. 
>>>> $this->User->field('temp_key') Is there a 3.xx equivalent ?
>>>>
>>>> In 2.xx I could validate a field in a model 
>>>> e.g. $this->User->validates(array('fieldList' => array('email'))) Is there 
>>>> a 3.xx equivalent ?
>>>>
>>>> Lastly a general question. The top of my Users controller currently 
>>>> looks like this, and I've not yet finished it...
>>>>
>>>> namespace App\Controller;
>>>>
>>>> use App\Controller\AppController;
>>>> use Cake\Network\Exception\ForbiddenException;
>>>> use Cake\Event\Event;
>>>> use Cake\ORM\TableRegistry;
>>>> use Cake\Utility\Security;
>>>> use Cake\ORM\Entity;
>>>>
>>>> class UsersController extends AppController {
>>>>
>>>> Does this look right, compared to the simplicity of 2.xx this now looks 
>>>> very unwieldy and complicated?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any replies.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
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