On 1/28/07, Bernard Grosperrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That's a pretty typical (and kinda sad) answer from someone with no real
> sql/ database background, and happy with MySQL, which just recently,
> (version 5) realised that Views, stored procedures, triggers, etc are
> MANDATORY in any serious database engine.( I use Postgresql exclusively
> with Cake, and am increasingly frustrated by the numerous limitations of
> cake versus a REAL database)
>

Ouch.  I hope you weren't trying to hurt my feelings there, Bernard.
You know almost NOTHING about my background, so you're making a huge
number of assumptions.  I encourage you to go to my programming blog,
where all my ignorance is revealed.

My point was that I have never used views and wanted to know of
circumstances when they were appropriate.  You're probably right that
9+ years of exposure to MySQL, Postgres and some Oracle mixed in there
as well gives me no real sql/database background.  Perhaps you can
help us lowly mortals understand views.  It's probably just ignorance
on my part, as I'm just a lowly developer not a sooperdooper DBA like
yourself.

As for feeling "constrained by the Framework",   well, maybe I'm an
idiot, but it seems to me that when you use a framework you are
accepting a bunch of rules on how to build you application.  It's
called "convention over configuration" and many, many people smarter
than you (yes, I'm as shocked as you that those people do exist) seem
to do just fine with the constraints of a framework and create
well-designed applications.

Best of luck with Cake.

-- 
Chris Hartjes

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