I should have said the hidden fields and their values can not be altered.
The rest of the forms values do not matter it is only the
data['ModelName']['fields'] that can not change or be added to.

-- 
/**
* @author Larry E. Masters
* @var string $userName
* @param string $realName
* @returns string aka PhpNut
* @access  public
*/


> https://trac.cakephp.org/changeset/4968
> https://trac.cakephp.org/changeset/4969
> https://trac.cakephp.org/changeset/4978
>
>
> If you are trying to alter the form fields or are setting any fields in
> your form without using $form-> methods in the helper the form will be
> considered invalid or tampered with. The only way to disable this would be
> like the example in the third link.
>
> Hidden fields can not be altered in anyway if you do not disable them
> using the example code in a before filter.
>

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