interesting.. I didnt think <?= worked if short tags were disabled -
in fact I've come across this before and had to susbstitute every
occurence of <?= for <?php echo in a load of my code where the tags
were disabled.

Unless of course this has changed recently...

Mike


On Oct 1, 11:13 am, Geoff Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can use <?= instead of <?php echo or <?php e(); ?> - I am pretty
> sure this is standard behaviour, at least I have not run into any
> troubles with it.
>
> My designer generally does the mock ups and then I place the actual
> php code in the mocks.  I find that this works best for the way I
> work, and most designers get a little consfused when you say "just
> loop over it" and stuff like that that us developers just know.
>
> Geoff
> --http://lemoncake.wordpress.com
>
> On Oct 1, 11:28 am, Adwin  Wijaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > my designer knows very well about css, but we still use table and css
> > (mixing) because, sometimes it would be harder to do design with css.
> > if i use htmlhelper, it would be easier .. but for my designer, he
> > might not understand about php code at all. and if he asking me to
> > change the code or order of the code , it would takes my time as
> > well ...
>
> > btw, is cakephp 1.2 or later, will use templating like in rails ? (or
> > is it already there ? )
> > I hate to see echo everywhere on my templates, it looks terrible ....
> > i would love to see like <?php =$html->link(.....) ?> or like in the
> > smarty {$html->link(....)}
>
> > thx you
> > adwin
>
> > On Sep 29, 12:20 pm, FallenJehova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > If your designer knows css, I would recommend using the htmlhelper.
> > > It's is very simple and fast to use for you, and as all elements are
> > > styleable, he'll would have no problem working with them.
>
> > > I am one of those who thinks that php is already a template language
> > > and smarty's features does not compensate the loss of simplicity and
> > > the processing overhead it produces.
>
> > > proce
> > > On 28 sep, 23:38, Adwin  Wijaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > for you, who are playing with cakephp for quite long, are you using
> > > > htmlhelper or just use plain html code or smarty ?
>
> > > > i  myself, get used with smarty for about 3 years and my web designer
> > > > is get used with it (he just know how to do html and css, no idea
> > > > about scripting).
>
> > > > can you give me the advantages using cakephp helper object over using
> > > > smarty ?
> > > > especially for the easy of use


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