Should not have posted so fast.  I seem to have found a solution:

$this->Script->unbindModel(
        array('belongsTo' => array('Category'))
);

That temporally removes the relationship.  Works perfectally to remove
the extra join.  But it still performs quarry #2, "DESCRIBE
`categories`".  humph.  Why does it do that?

Thanks,
Jonah

On Jun 20, 9:54 pm, "Turnquist, Jonah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BTW i am using CakePHP 1.2
>
> On Jun 20, 9:33 pm, "Turnquist, Jonah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ok, so I have a Scripts table, holding php script entries (tutorials),
> > a Categories table, and a Users table.  Each script has a category and
> > a user.  I have all the hasMany belongsTo etc set up properly.
>
> > On my /scripts page, under the index action it lists all of the
> > scripts, displaying the script title, and it's user that created it,
> > but not it's category.  So it should not even fetch category data.  So
> > this is what it needs to fetch:
>
> > [0] => Array
> >     (
> >         [Script] => Array
> >             (
> >                 [id] => 1
> >                 [title] => DB connect
> >                 [created] => 2001-06-18 16:05:40
> >                 [description] => This class that will connect to the
> > database test
> >             )
>
> >          [User] => Array
> >             (
> >                 [name] => man
> >                 [id] => 1
> >             )
>
> >     )
>
> > The find() code that is working and doing the above:
>
> > $this->set('scripts', $this->Script->find('all', array(
> >         //'recursive' => -1, //this is commented out
> >         'fields' => array('Script.id', 'Script.title', 'Script.created',
> > 'Script.description', 'User.name', 'User.id'),
> >         )
> > ));
>
> > Setting the 'fields' option kept it from returning any categories
> > data.
>
> > This successfully returns the correct data.  BUT, when I looked at the
> > quarries, I saw a problem:
> > 1)   DESCRIBE `scripts`
> > 2)   DESCRIBE `categories`  //not needed!
> > 3)   DESCRIBE `users`
> > 4)   SELECT `Script`.`id`, `Script`.`title`, `Script`.`created`,
> > `Script`.`description`, `User`.`name`, `User`.`id` FROM `scripts` AS
> > `Script` LEFT JOIN `categories` AS `Category` ON
> > (`Script`.`category_id` = `Category`.`id`) LEFT JOIN `users` AS `User`
> > ON (`Script`.`user_id` = `User`.`id`) WHERE 1 = 1  //excessive!
>
> > You see, it is doing a left join on categories in quarry #4, and
> > quarry #2 is not even needed.  I understand joins can be slow.  Thus I
> > am asking how can I get rid of it
>
> > I tried setting the option 'recursive' => -1 (you can see it commented
> > out), but that obviously stops it from collecting the user data too.
> > So I guess what I need is a partial recursion?  So it performs
> > recursion to the Users table but not the Categories table?  How can
> > this be done? any ideas?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Jonah (is very new to cake BTW, try not to use big words lol
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