weirdly enough, my gmail account has not received anything from netdev
since oct 11.

yes, i think fq_codel will be better, and even the proposed
too-shallow threshold will make for less of a dent on the internet.

still... I do wish I'd seen this earlier.

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 1:31 PM Sebastian Moeller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Which does not change the inconvenient fact that L4S does not work over the 
> open internet. But I bet that fq_codel with a shaper is going to be hands 
> down the better L4S AQM compared to DualQ... (thanks to its fq nature it can 
> forego the whole "coupling" heuristic mess and side-step the whole massive 
> unfairness issues, and keeping the known working codel law for non-ECT(1) 
> traffic also compared to dualq's burts intolerabt PIE variant also seems like 
> a step in the right direction).
> Then again it seems consequent given that the BBRv2 team seem to be on-board 
> the L4S train; to put a somewhat positive spin (lipstick?) on this, I assume 
> that the quality of the L4S engineering might improve...
>
> Regards
>         Sebastian
>
> P.S.: Witnessing the L4S drama in the IETF makes me appreciate how 
> comparatively clean and elegant sausages are made...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 14, 2021, at 22:06, Dave Taht <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/[email protected]/
> >
> > --
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> >
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