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From: Laur <lc...@yahoo.com>
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Good thought.? And I liked Jack's idea of how to incorporate this in the 
teaching if you had time.

When partner changing, gender swapping, we should consider if the other person 
in the pairing is willing to dance with someone other than they said yes to.? I 
don't think you'd get that far in the workshop (partner swap) but it is a part 
of play. Sometimes at a weekend we'll have an occasional chaos line where 
anything goes, as I'm sure you have done/seen too.? Key for swapping is - know 
what your doing, and don't put an insecure or inexperienced person out there.

Locally we do as was already noted at regular, and even special dances - watch 
the line and switch back if someone is a bit homophobic or if it will be 
confusing.? Knowing your community is key.? Or get to know the community you 
are visiting.

The interesting thing is people don't get confused, or don't typically get 
confused, if its a pair of ladies dancing together, they deal with the 
position.? It's only when the genders are crossed that the eyes get crossed, or 
if its a pair of gents.? I think its a good thing to help newer folks stay 
familiar with the position rather than the role and rather see that than full 
protection from exposure.? If I see its a newer dancer when I approach another 
lady I say, I'm dancing as the gent as I approach, and then they are okay.? 
Sometimes newer male dancers ask me to twirl them or turn them so they can 
understand how it feels.

Laurie

--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisa...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisa...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 61, Issue 6
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Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 9:36 AM

Following up on Mark Galipeau's note:

In a workshop, it may be good to offer a little context on when
gender-role-swapping is appropriate (or inappropriate). For example, at most
dance weekends your neighbors will welcome or at least understand. At many
monthly dances, there are neighbors who may become confused either because
they are new, rigidly devoted to traditional gender roles, or any number of
other reasons. Some may even try to correct us (if they don't know us).

Before swapping, I look ahead in the line to be sure that our next neighbors
will be part of the "game" and not put off by it.

(Mark indicates the idea of there being a time and a place for this, I
merely offer an additional tip).

--Jerome




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> If the group is alert, what my dance partners and I occasionally enjoy, is
> memorizing both roles in the dance, then each iteration when there is a
> swing your partner, we swap gender roles.
> ie: first swing I lead, then the next time we come back to swing my partner
> immediately takes the lead role and swings me.? Some dances are challenging
> and if the grey matter is slow, or it is late in the evening this can really
> snafu the line.
> ?
> Chris Ricciotti has a great web resouce on Gender Free Contra on this web
> site.
> http://www.lcfd.org/Articles/GFManual/index.html
> ?
> Mark Galipeau
> Queer Contra Dancer
> We swing both ways, and then some.
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On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Jack Mitchell wrote:

>    One other thing I had thought about doing in a workshop is to have a
>    few people in each line with a red ball cap or a particular shirt or
>    some other identifying mark,

Among the several methods of identifying dance roles without respect to 
gender, the most common in New England is the LCFD (Lavender Country 
and Folk Dancers) method pioneered by Chris Ricciotti in 1989 at the 
Jamaica Plain (MA) dance. Chris instituted the use of an armband for 
the person dancing the traditional gent's role, and no armband for the 
"barearm" dancer in the traditional lady's role. Orange surveyors tape 
has become the most popular material for this purpose at gender role 
free events. Although "bands" and "bares" are still the terms used to 
denote dance roles in place of "gents" and "ladies," sometimes the 
identifying mark is no longer worn on the arm. It may be a bright 
headband, or a clip-on rainbow ribbon adorning a shirt pocket; still, 
the meaning is clear as you approach a new couple within a contra set.

Skillful role-free calling depends upon much more than convincing half 
your dancers to wear an armband. For those who are planning to 
participate in a workshop or otherwise experiment with role free 
calling, I can't stress highly enough the importance of going to the 
LCFD site at   http://www.lcfd.org/   Scroll to the "News and Articles" 
section and click on "Gender-free caller's manual and history" to 
download Chris Ricciotti's history of and instructions for role-free 
dancing. This is the most important resource that I know of. It 
includes popular contra dances written out with traditional calling 
terminology and role-free terminology side by side.

Although popular within the gay and lesbian community, role-free 
dancing is available to and enjoyable for everyone. NEFFA's  first 
programmed role-free session, using armbands, took place in 1990, and 
these sessions have become a NEFFA tradition.

There are distinct advantages for callers who become fully comfortable 
with dancing either role, even if you never call a specifically 
role-free evening of dance. For example, as you plan an evening 
program, you will find that you develop better sequences of dances to 
call. As you review a dance for possible inclusion in your program, 
you'll think more about how the dance choreography works for either 
traditional role. After calling a dance that emphasizes the lady's 
role, you'll be less likely to follow up with one or two more dances 
that make the women do all the work, but will instead make sure that 
the gent's role receives proper attention within the overall flow of 
dance. The discovery of many more advantages awaits the caller who 
looks further into this subject. ... Bob

Robert Jon Golder
New Bedford, MA



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