My understanding is that the basic rule is "who, what, how much [if needed]"; 
e.g. "gents allemande left once and a half," or "partner balance and swing" (as 
opposed to the commonly heard "balance and swing your partner").  The idea is 
to give the dancers the information in the order they need it -- first, they 
need to orient toward the correct person, then know what to do, then know how 
long to keep doing it (unless it's obvious).  I was also taught that the "how 
much" is one of the first things you leave off when you're shortening calls in 
preparation for dropping out entirely.

Lewis




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   1. Using effective word order in prompts.... (The Witful Turnip)
   2. Re: Using effective word order in prompts.... (Laur)


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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:29:37 -0800
>From: Greg McKenzie <[email protected]>
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>Subject: Re: [Callers] Cub Callers
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>Greg wrote: 
>The older veterans also seem to gain so much confidence that they 
>sometimes begin dropping some of the basics techniques of contra 
>dance calling, such as using effective word order in their 
>prompts....

I think I've seen you mention this a couple of times Greg. Can you please
provide some examples of what you feel are ineffectively ordered calling
prompts and how you would change them to make them more effective? I'm just
curious about what your take on this is.  Unfortunately, I tend to read
Shared Weight sporadically (plain old lack of time) so if you've actually
covered this in a prior post, and can forward that to me, that would be
great.

Thanks much,
Bev  



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Greg,
I thing others are interested in this as a discussion, if you would be so good 
to share.

Laur

On Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 2:27 PM EST The Witful Turnip wrote:

>>Message: 1
>>Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:29:37 -0800
>>From: Greg McKenzie <[email protected]>
>>To: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: [Callers] Cub Callers
>>
>>Greg wrote: 
>>The older veterans also seem to gain so much confidence that they 
>>sometimes begin dropping some of the basics techniques of contra 
>>dance calling, such as using effective word order in their 
>>prompts....
>
>I think I've seen you mention this a couple of times Greg. Can you please
>provide some examples of what you feel are ineffectively ordered calling
>prompts and how you would change them to make them more effective? I'm just
>curious about what your take on this is.  Unfortunately, I tend to read
>Shared Weight sporadically (plain old lack of time) so if you've actually
>covered this in a prior post, and can forward that to me, that would be
>great.
>
>Thanks much,
>Bev  
>
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