Cool, thanks for the update John. Rich
On 4/18/10 1:57 PM, "joda_rogers" <joda_rog...@altrionet.com> wrote: > > I called the dance last night, and it worked very well - it's a keeper. > > There was a little tendency for the dancers to finish early, and therefore > begin the Dos-a-do early. I traced this back to the fact that the figure > before the zig zag is a circle left 3/4. The dancers were accomplishing that > is 6 steps and starting (and finishing) the zig zag early. The music was > quite zesty, and the dancers were stepping This wasn't a big problem, and I > was able to fix it by timing my calls differently. > >> Betty's Night Out >> Rich Goss >> Improper, Double Prog >> >> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) >> A2: Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand cast (gents >> backing up, 4 counts) >> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing >> B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left past current N, zag right around >> next N, zig left to couple #3 > > Regarding the timing in A2, I encouraged the dancers to (a) only take 4 steps > down the hall, and (b) use a courtesy turn. This sets up the timing for the > up the hall and hand cast. > (The hand cast takes 4 full counts, so therefore the up-the-hall can only be 4 > steps.) > I had another problem in that some of the gents didn't do the ricochet > correctly, but that was my fault for not demonstrating the oval pattern that > is required. > > -John > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 6:39 PM, callers-requ...@sharedweight.net wrote: > >> Send Callers mailing list submissions to >> call...@sharedweight.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> callers-requ...@sharedweight.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> callers-ow...@sharedweight.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Callers digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: New Dance (Jack Mitchell) >> 2. 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Reminder: Callers Workshop with Lisa Greenleaf (Jack Mitchell) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:14:02 -0400 >> From: Jack Mitchell <jamit...@mindspring.com> >> To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] New Dance >> Message-ID: <4bc73b4a.9000...@mindspring.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> That's what I had in mind. >> >> J >> >> On 4/15/2010 11:52 AM, Gary Shapiro wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:31 AM, richgoss-at-comcast.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I don't think there would be enough time for a hand cast. >>>> >>> >>> >>> The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2: >>> >>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around >>> (M back up) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> call...@sharedweight.net >>> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:52:22 +0000 (UTC) >> From: richg...@comcast.net >> To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] New Dance >> Message-ID: >> <1863459627.13140711271350342097.javamail.r...@sz0051a.emeryville.ca.mail.com >> cast.net> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> >> >> From: "Gary Shapiro" sharedweight-gar...@snkmail.com >> >> The hand cast or gate or wheel around should take place in A2: >> >> A2: Down hall 4-in-line (4), turn as couples (4); return (4), wheel around >> (M back up) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall:? down in 4 (6), turn (4), return >> (6) ? >> >> >> >> I like what you are proposing though. >> >> >> >> Rich >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:59:09 -0400 >> From: Jack Mitchell <jamit...@mindspring.com> >> To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] New Dance >> Message-ID: <4bc745dd.1000...@mindspring.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall, >> it's generally ended up >> >> Down the hall (4 and a bit) >> Turn (4 less a bit) >> Return (4 and a bit) >> Cast (4 less a bit) >> >> The timing can be a bit flexible. In addition, the cast will flow right >> into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too. >> >> Jack >> On 4/15/2010 12:52 PM, richg...@comcast.net wrote: >>> Isn't the usual timing for a down the hall: down in 4 (6), turn (4), return >>> (6) ? >>> >>> >>> >>> I like what you are proposing though. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> call...@sharedweight.net >>> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:59:25 +0000 (UTC) >> From: richg...@comcast.net >> To: jamit...@mindspring.com, Caller's discussion list >> <call...@sharedweight.net> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] New Dance >> Message-ID: >> <597081439.13171231271354365672.javamail.r...@sz0051a.emeryville.ca.mail.comc >> ast.net> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> >> >> Seems like a good change to the dance.? Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jack Mitchell" <jamit...@mindspring.com> >> To: "Caller's discussion list" <call...@sharedweight.net> >> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:59:09 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >> Subject: Re: [Callers] New Dance >> >> When I've done a dance with a hand cast out of the back up the hall, >> it's generally ended up >> >> Down the hall (4 and a bit) >> Turn (4 less a bit) >> Return (4 and a bit) >> Cast (4 less a bit) >> >> The timing can be a bit flexible. ?In addition, the cast will flow right >> into the Hey and so that timing will be a bit squishy too. >> >> Jack >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:05:39 +0000 (UTC) >> From: richg...@comcast.net >> To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] New Dance >> Message-ID: >> <302640891.13174091271354739311.javamail.r...@sz0051a.emeryville.ca.mail.comc >> ast.net> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> >> >> >> Here is the new dance with changes from Jack, and clarification on the >> zig-zag: >> >> >> >> Betty?s Night Out ? Rich Goss ???? Improper, Double Prog >> >> A1: ? Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) >> A2: ? Down hall 4-in-line(4), turn as couples(4); Return(4), hand cast (gents >> backing up, ladies walking forward) to send the ladies in to start the half >> hey? >> >> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) Partner swing >> B2: Circle Left 3/4, As Couples, zig left?past current N, zag right around >> next N, zig left to couple #3 (to start A1 Dosido) >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:45:31 +0000 >> From: Ron Nelson <caller...@hotmail.com> >> To: <call...@sharedweight.net> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance >> Message-ID: <col119-w121307a6705f05b7fcd03bb8...@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, >> finish facing 3rd couple". Of course, I come from a square dance background >> where we "weave the ring". This would merely be a derivation of that call. >> >> >> >> What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure >> of the execution. Care to elaborate? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Ron Nelson >> >> Chula Vista, CA >> >>> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700 >>> From: richg...@comcast.net >>> To: call...@sharedweight.net >>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance >>> >>> Right. Another way to describe it would be: >>> As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right >>> around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido). >>> >>> Let me know how it goes if you call it. >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> >>> On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" <rpersh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Rich ~ >>>> >>>> I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has >>>> been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it >>>> mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women >>>> pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the >>>> left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the >>>> next time through? >>>> >>>> I might try it this weekend. Thanks, >>>> >>>> ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, callers-requ...@sharedweight.net wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Rich Goss <richg...@comcast.net> >>>>> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT >>>>> To: Shared Weight <call...@sharedweight.net> >>>>> Subject: [Callers] New Dance >>>>> Reply-To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who >>>>> recently passed >>>>> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written? >>>>> >>>>> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss >>>>> Improper, Double Prog >>>>> >>>>> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) >>>>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across >>>>> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) >>>>> Partner swing >>>>> B2: Circle Left 3/4 >>>>> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rich, Portland Or >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Callers mailing list >>>> call...@sharedweight.net >>>> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> call...@sharedweight.net >>> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL >> :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:57:47 +0000 (UTC) >> From: richg...@comcast.net >> To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance >> Message-ID: >> <1557894258.13195571271357867755.javamail.r...@sz0051a.emeryville.ca.mail.com >> cast.net> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> >> >> >> >> The ladies perform the 1/2 hey, crossing the set.? >> >> The gents start the 1/2 hey, but meet in the center, touch hands, and bounce >> back (or Richochet) ?to their same side. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ron Nelson" <caller...@hotmail.com> >> To: call...@sharedweight.net >> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:45:31 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance >> >> >> I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, >> finish facing 3rd couple". ?Of course, I come from a square dance background >> where we "weave the ring". ?This would merely be a derivation of that call. >> >> ? >> >> What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure >> of the execution. Care to elaborate? >> >> ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> ? >> >> Ron Nelson >> >> Chula Vista, CA >> ? >>> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700 >>> From: richg...@comcast.net >>> To: call...@sharedweight.net >>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance >>> >>> Right. Another way to describe it would be: >>> As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right >>> around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido). >>> >>> Let me know how it goes if you call it. >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> >>> On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing" <rpersh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Rich ~ >>>> >>>> I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has >>>> been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it >>>> mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women >>>> pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the >>>> left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the >>>> next time through? >>>> >>>> I might try it this weekend. Thanks, >>>> >>>> ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, callers-requ...@sharedweight.net wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Rich Goss <richg...@comcast.net> >>>>> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT >>>>> To: Shared Weight <call...@sharedweight.net> >>>>> Subject: [Callers] New Dance >>>>> Reply-To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who >>>>> recently passed >>>>> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written? >>>>> >>>>> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss >>>>> Improper, Double Prog >>>>> >>>>> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) >>>>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across >>>>> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) >>>>> Partner swing >>>>> B2: Circle Left 3/4 >>>>> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rich, Portland Or >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Callers mailing list >>>> call...@sharedweight.net >>>> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> call...@sharedweight.net >>> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> ????????????????? ???????? ? ???????????????? ? >> _________________________________________________________________ >> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL >> :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> call...@sharedweight.net >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:00:54 -0400 >> From: Jack Mitchell <jamit...@mindspring.com> >> To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance >> Message-ID: <4bc76266.5030...@mindspring.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Start a hey, ladies pass R, pass P by L on outside, gents meet and then >> bounce back to end up on their partner's left for the swing (it can be >> nice if the lady catches her partner for the swing. >> >> J >> >> On 4/15/2010 2:45 PM, Ron Nelson wrote: >>> I would refer to the action by saying "as couples, weave past two couples, >>> finish facing 3rd couple". Of course, I come from a square dance background >>> where we "weave the ring". This would merely be a derivation of that call. >>> >>> >>> >>> What I'm not clear on is the richochet. I've heard the term, but am not sure >>> of the execution. Care to elaborate? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron Nelson >>> >>> Chula Vista, CA >>> >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:15:55 -0700 >>>> From: richg...@comcast.net >>>> To: call...@sharedweight.net >>>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12- new dance >>>> >>>> Right. Another way to describe it would be: >>>> As couples zig-zag past 2 N couples, moving left around #1 (current), right >>>> around #2, face the #3 (to A1: dosido). >>>> >>>> Let me know how it goes if you call it. >>>> >>>> Rich >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/15/10 6:46 AM, "Ruth Pershing"<rpersh...@mindspring.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Rich ~ >>>>> >>>>> I don't know the answer to your question about whether the dance has >>>>> been written, but could you explain the B2 zig-zag figure? Does it >>>>> mean that as a couple, you pass by the next couple to the left (women >>>>> pass), then next couple by the right (men pass) and the next by the >>>>> left (women pass), then get ready to do-si-do a new neighbor for the >>>>> next time through? >>>>> >>>>> I might try it this weekend. Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> ~Ruth, Chapel Hill NC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, callers-requ...@sharedweight.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Rich Goss<richg...@comcast.net> >>>>>> Date: April 14, 2010 10:15:21 AM EDT >>>>>> To: Shared Weight<call...@sharedweight.net> >>>>>> Subject: [Callers] New Dance >>>>>> Reply-To: Caller's discussion list<call...@sharedweight.net> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wrote this dance recently in honor of one of our dancers who >>>>>> recently passed >>>>>> away, Betty Stewart. Has this one already been written? >>>>>> >>>>>> Betty?s Night Out Rich Goss >>>>>> Improper, Double Prog >>>>>> >>>>>> A1: Neighbor Dosido and Swing (end facing down hall) >>>>>> A2: Down hall 4-in-line, turn as couples; Return, face across >>>>>> B1: 1/2 Hey, Gents Ricochet Back (Ladies cross rt sh) >>>>>> Partner swing >>>>>> B2: Circle Left 3/4 >>>>>> As Couples, zig left, zag right, zig left >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rich, Portland Or >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Callers mailing list >>>>> call...@sharedweight.net >>>>> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Callers mailing list >>>> call...@sharedweight.net >>>> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >>>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. >>> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W >>> L:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Callers mailing list >>> call...@sharedweight.net >>> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:25:33 -0400 >> From: Jack Mitchell <jamit...@mindspring.com> >> To: trianglecon...@yahoogroups.com, fiddle-and-...@yahoogroups.com, >> Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> >> Subject: [Callers] Reminder: Callers Workshop with Lisa Greenleaf >> Message-ID: <4bc7bc8d.3070...@mindspring.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Don't forget that the registration deadline for the Callers Workshop >> with Lisa Greenleaf is coming up. At this point, we're about half full, >> and I expect more registrations to be coming in over the next week or >> so. If you've been planning to send in your registration and haven't >> sent it yet, please get it in soon. >> >> The workshop will be the weekend of May 21-23, held at a variety of >> locations in the Chapel Hill area. We will get started on Friday >> evening around 7:00 for an opening gathering, will meet all day (8:30 - >> 4:30) on Saturday, have a dance Saturday evening, and then wrap up with >> a Sunday brunch and closing discussion on Sunday from 11:00 - 2:00 or so. >> >> The registration form can be downloaded here: >> http://www.indigo-logix.com/jack/Workshop/2010WorkshopwithLisaGreenleaf.doc >> >> If you have any questions, please email jamit...@mindspring.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> call...@sharedweight.net >> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >> >> >> End of Callers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 16 >> *************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > call...@sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
