I should add that I, too, like to know where the balances are.  But other
than that, I'm fine with a description.

-Dave

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Jeffrey Spero <j...@syncopaths.com> wrote:

> Well, I'll be the counter-weight here!
>
> As another caller/musician, i love to see the card when I'm playing.  I
> find it DOES matter more than just a generic description, as I like to know
> precisely WHERE the bounciness is, or WHERE the smooth part of the dance
> is.  There are specific tunes that I keep out for specific moves in dances
> - for example, if there are many balances in the A parts, I'd choose a tune
> like Kitchen Girl that fits those balances perfectly.  As a musician, I
> like to see where the balances and heys are.
>
> As a CALLER, i hardly ever request a specific tune because bands play
> tunes differently.  And though I do use words like slinky, playful,
> driving… I also let the band contact know where the balances are, and where
> the smooth parts are.
>
> Just another perspective!
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:12 AM, barb kirchner <barbkirch...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > hey ron - some good points! i think what we're coming up with here is
> that it doesn't exactly matter WHAT you ask the band, as long as you set up
> some good communication with them.  take the time to talk, to ask who is in
> charge of what, what they reallly like to do most, etc., etc., etc.   ron -
> i have a slightly different approach if the caller doesn't give me good
> clues.  i watch the walk-through.  seriously, i program the music like the
> caller programs dances (start out easy and straightforward, kick up the
> energy, change the tempo, up the energy again, change the tempo again, big
> ending number).  i USUALLY know what i want to play next, or at least have
> it narrowed down to two or three sets (ie, i have three different sets that
> i could use to "change the tempo").  if the walk-through goes well, i play
> whatever my first choice was.  if not, i'll pick a more laid-back set :-)
> >> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:59:14 -0500
> >> From: david.j.casse...@gmail.com
> >> To: call...@sharedweight.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Callers] What to ask a band before the gig?
> >>
> >> Hi Ron,
> >>
> >> When I was first learning to call, Becky Hill suggested that, instead of
> >> simply telling bands what kinds of tunes you want using the wide
> vocabulary
> >> at your own disposal, ask bands what kinds of adjectives they'd find
> >> useful.  As a musician, hearing that the caller wants a "marchy" or
> >> "slinky" or "driving" tune set is very helpful, but hearing that they
> want
> >> a "bubbly" tune is really not all that helpful.  Ask what language
> they'd
> >> like to communicate in, and it can go much smoother.
> >>
> >> I agree with Barb that simply sharing the dance card isn't the best
> >> approach.  In dances where I play, apparently unlike Michael F.'s
> >> experience, this is an extremely common practice.  But, in my view, it's
> >> the caller's responsibility to decide how the dance should be.  Many
> dances
> >> work well either with smooth, flowing reels, or bouncy jigs, and the
> mood
> >> of the dance should be something the caller selects to fit in with the
> >> evening's program.  That said, if the caller isn't giving me helpful
> >> adjectives, I'll ask to see the cards, just so I can at least make sure
> we
> >> won't be playing the bounciest set ever when there's a hey into a gypsy
> >> meltdown, etc.
> >>
> >> Also, I would echo other people's suggestions to find out which band
> member
> >> you should be communicating with, and at the very least, what style of
> >> music the band plays.  Getting a recording or two is even more helpful.
> >> You should know ahead of time not to ask an old-time band to play a
> polka,
> >> and you should also know not to ask a band with no strings in it to
> play an
> >> old-time tune.  It's a particular pet peeve of mine as a musician when a
> >> caller asks for an old-time tune with every square dance, regardless of
> >> who's in the band.  It might require actually looking at the moves and
> >> figuring out what other music would work best with that particular
> dance,
> >> but it's always going to be a better experience for the dancers if the
> band
> >> plays music that they're good at playing.
> >>
> >> -Dave
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Ron T Blechner <contra...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What sorts of questions do you ask bands prior to the dance,
> especially by
> >>> e-mail / phone?
> >>>
> >>> A couple I like are:
> >>> - Do they have particular music sets they like to play at certain
> times,
> >>> like, to end the night, etc?
> >>> - Especially if I haven't heard them before in person, what overall
> types
> >>> of music do they enjoy playing the most?
> >>>
> >>> I'd love to hear your thoughts.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Ron T Blechner
> >>> contradances.tumblr.com/ron
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