Thanks for your perspective. I guess that since the gents pass was the 4th
pass in the hey then whatever is best to describe that you pass the N by the
right shoulder (the gents pass is by the L in the center BTW - that's what GL
means). In essence, to me, it FEELS like a continuation of the hey and then
you pass N right to the next. I think the easiest is to say, half hey, pass N
by the right up and down, and on to the next, gypsy and swing the next.
Perry
From: Andrea Nettleton <twirly-g...@bellsouth.net>
To: Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com>
Cc: Ron Blechner <contra...@gmail.com>; callers
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Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
Hmm. Perry, I wasn't thinking the loop R was part of the hey at all, nor that
the timing needed any adjustment. I do think that the half hey doesn't end
with the gents in the center. Ron clearly wrote that the gents pass R in the
center. That theoretically puts them at the side or nearly so, and heading
that way. The ladies will be looping the back at that point. A loop R will
feel like turning to a hey the line, especially for the ladies. My point is
that it will take several iterations of the dance for dancers to remember to
flatten it out as they travel toward the next N so they can gypsy R with them.
If you told them to balance and swing, it would happen more easily, but I can
see that Ron is trying to keep it glassy smooth. My experience suggests that
whatever we intend, dancers will interpret "loop" with varying degrees of
curve, many making it deep enough to spoil the transition to the R gypsy,
unless the teach specifically prevents this. if you just told the gents to
pass L in the middle, and continue to the side, then face the N and pass
through to gypsy the next, the curve would evolve on its own as people danced
it, and be just right. My opinion only.
As for timing, no matter what you call it, I'm betting that loop is going to
cross the phrase for many, and the new N gypsy will be short. Possibly, just
looping to a new N Sw would work. Might be a long swing for some. Best,Andrea
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On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Perry Shafran <ps...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I would agree with that, although the 1/2 hey is over when the gents pass in
the center, so it would be more like a 5/8 hey, with 2 beats of that hey coming
in the A2. "Loop right" seems to be a way to avoid calling it part of the hey,
and since it's the start of a new phrase, I can see why one would want to
differentiate it from the hey.
Perry
From: Andrea Nettleton via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
To: Ron Blechner <contra...@gmail.com>
Cc: callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Ye ole Does This Exist - Mad Robin 2 Hey dance
Ron et al,In general, I really like this dance. That loop right will snag
people at least a few times through though, in that it will make them want to
gypsy L with the next, continuing the weave, when they need to make it feel
like a pass through so their body flow can take them into a R gypsy. It might
be worth pointing that out, or teaching them to finish the half hey face N,
pass through R Sh . Just a thought.Andrea
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On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Hi callers,I was hoping this dance, or something very similar, might be
identified:Becket
A1: Gents Alle L 1.5 (8)
1/2 Hey (8) (NR, LL, PR, GL)
A2: N Gypsy R 1/2 (2)* (to face next N)
Next N Gypsy + Sw (14)
B1: Mad Robin (8)**
1/2 Hey (8) (GL, PR, LL, NR)
B2: Gents Pass L (2)
P Gypsy + Swing (14)* Been debating teaching / calling this as a gypsy
or "loop right". I think either works, but ideas welcome.
** Gents in front, CWThanks,
Ron
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