Ahem Tom...that would be "gender" lol....Seriously, being of the more mature (and I use that term loosely) set, I find all these new names for ROLES to be troublesome and tiresome. Who exactly is a Lark & who exactly are Ravens? Because quite frankly I have mental pictures of both....from literature and music and they could be as offending as gents & ladies or women & men....not to try to start anything here. I am just trying to grasp something that seems to be just a wee bit beyond my reach. Several of my fellow traveling dance friends (of similar age) do not understand these terms either. Since I plan to be traveling and hopefully calling in "your community" sometime, I'd really like to get a handle on this.
Mary "24" Collins <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> “Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass ... it's about learning to dance in the rain!” ~ Unknown On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Tom Hinds <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Angela. If only we could easily change our gender so we could > understand what it's like to be the other sex. > > > > > On Oct 14, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Angela DeCarlis wrote: > > Tom, I had this conversation with Sue Rosen this summer. Women who belong > to the original Feminist generation (like Sue and, presumably, like Mary > and Martha above) were involved in a cultural movement to abolish the word > "Lady", along with its restrictive connotations, in favor of "Woman". The > latter label, I understand, was one which lent more power and ownership to > its wearers, and so was preferable. You could be however you were, > "ladylike" or not, and still be a Woman. (others, please chime in if I've > gotten anything wrong or missed anything!) > > My generation has an opposite problem: due to the modern-day Gender > Revolution, wherein we seek to abolish the gender dichotomy, terms like > "Woman" and "Man" feel too restrictive and denotative. "Lady" and "Gent" > feel almost more comfortable to some, since they are words that are > slightly more flexible, in some ways. > > One of the biggest problems for both groups, I think, is when the terms > are used interchangeably. > > This is one of my favorite things to think about when it comes to role > terms in dance today! I *love* our community's intergenerationality, and > learning about each other through conversations like this! > > Eventually I hope to get around to writing in about the changes I've seen > at BIDA since switching to Larks and Ravens at the beginning of the summer. > It's been truly remarkable! > > 'Til then, > Angela > > On Oct 14, 2017 9:26 AM, "Mary Collins via Callers" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Martha, I dont recall this dance of which you speak. Could you share the >> true title and calls? Thanks! I also cringe over ladies (I don't fit that >> tradition) yet it is a good "place holder, ROLE identifer" for my >> communities. >> >> On Oct 14, 2017 9:06 AM, "Tom Hinds via Callers" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I must have fallen asleep during a discussion of "ladies". What's the >>> issue? >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:13 PM, Martha Wild via Callers < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > I’ve got a gypsy star dance (I actually call it “Star Wrong” and not >>> just because of the g-word, but because if you say “gypsy star” everybody >>> starts to gypsy and NOT star, so I gave up on that confusing terminology). >>> Haven’t seen another dance like it. The move from mad robin into the star >>> wrong actually flows quite well. I use men and women for roles, not >>> genders. When I first started calling, we considered “lady” to be a four >>> letter word - women’s movement and bra burning and all that. I still find >>> it hard to use the word “lady” and not bristle. Times have changed, now >>> people bristle at men and women. Go figure. I didn’t correct the “g-word” >>> use on this version >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List Name: Callers mailing list >>> List Address: [email protected] >>> Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List Name: Callers mailing list >> List Address: [email protected] >> Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> >
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