The history said: "American did kill more than 600000 Khmers in 1969." chatdomuk3 reckons this sentence is only 1/2 truth! It is not the whole truth! What he means "American did only kill 300000 Khmers in 1969!" Thanks for the bargain!
--- On Fri, 10/10/08, chanta bury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: chanta bury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA: the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 10:56 PM 1/2 truth is not the whole truth it's a distortion of facts . Beware of Vietnamese communists agents at this forum : Ông-thu N ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).. As Vietnamese communists agent, this article is just a propaganda. This individual has twisted it , and distorted it, in an attempt to show that the American are bad but he remains silent on the Vietnamese invasion and occupation of Cambodia from 1979-2008, condemned by 116 UN member countries through 10 UN resolutions. Just examine and study these two culture in order to understand the Vietnamese mentality and the motive of this Vietnamese agent. The Vietnamese culture is based on lies and these lies are to be found in the Chinese culture as well. Because the Vietnamese culture is born from the Chinese culture through over 1000 years Chinese rule over the Vietnamese people. Just look to these events. North Vietnam, however, has not respected that neutrality. 1940-1969 Cambodia -- a small country of seven million people. -- has been a neutral nation since the Geneva Agreement of 1954, an agreement, incidentally, which was signed by the government of North Vietnam. American policy since then has been to scrupulously respect the neutrality of the Cambodian people. We have maintained a skeleton diplomatic mission of fewer than 15 in Cambodia’s capital, and that only since last August. For the previous four years, from 1965 to 1969, we did not have any diplomatic mission whatever in Cambodia, and for the past five years we have provided no military assistance whatever and no economic assistance to Cambodia. North Vietnam, however, has not respected that neutrality.. For the past five years, as indicated on this map, that you see here, North Vietnam has occupied military sanctuaries all along the Cambodian frontier with South Vietnam. Some of these extend up to 20 miles into Cambodia.. The sanctuaries are in red, and as you note, they are on both sides of the border. They are used for hit-and-run attacks on American and South Vietnamese forces in South Vietnam. These Communist-occupied territories contain major base camps, training sites, logistics facilities, weapons and ammunition factories, airstrips, and prisoner of war compounds. And for five years neither the United States nor South Vietnam has moved against these enemy sanctuaries because we did not wish to violate the territory of a neutral nation. Vietnam, has not respected the UN CHARTER, the Paris Peace agreement with the US . A. VIETNAM INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA 1978-2008. December 25, 1978 Invasion of Cambodia. Some 100,000 Vietnamese with 20,000 KUFNS troops, under the direction of Gen. Van Tien Dung, launch an invasion of Cambodia. B.. CHINESE INVASION OF VIETNAM (SHORT) Feb.. 17, 1979 "Teaching a lesson". Some 170,000 Chinese troops with 700 warplanes, and 250-300 tanks launched an invasion of Vietnam to punish it for invading of Cambodia. THE WORDS OF THE VIETNAMESE ARE PURE LIES : Study these words made by by PHAM VAN DONG, the Prime Minister of North Vietnam, his public statement, his promises made to Prince Sihanouk and his orders to launch an invasion of Cambodia. It reflects the Vietnamese culture of lies. It reflects also the Vietnamese race and national character based on dishonesty ,deception , and pure lies. . VIETNAM WORDS OF LIES : June 8, 1967 North VN PM Pham Van Dong makes a declaration of recognizing Cambodian independence, neutrality, sovereignty and territorial integrity. The declaration makes in response to Prince Sihanouk’s appeal for the recognition and respect of Cambodia’s territorial integrity. VIETNAM CRIMES AGAINST CAMBODIA : VIETNAM INVASION OF CAMBODIA 1978. Dec. 25, 1978 PM Pham Van Dong launched an invasion of Cambodia. Some 100,000 Vietnamese with 20,000 KUFNS troops, under the direction of Gen.Van Tien Dung, launch an invasion of Cambodia. VIETNAM OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA : Under Vietnam occupation of Cambodia in 10 years 1979-1989 : Under Le Duc Tho rule alone 1979-1989 an estimate 460 000 innocent Cambodian had died through TORTURE, BURIED ALIVE, SIMPLE EXECUTION, foced labor,famine ,stravation, malnutrition and sponsor starvation by the CPP regime recorded by Amnestry international and others. IT CONFIRMS BY THIS BOOK : on the behavior and character of a Vietnamese,as described in this : BOOK " GIAI PHONG " by T Terzani. It describes a Vietnamese as THIEF, A LIAR, A KILLER, A DECEIVER , a sleeper ...... And this proof shows how 116 UN member countries condemned the Vietnamese leaders as liars. VIETNAM INVASION & OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA IS CONDEMNED: Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. Again Vietnam, has not respected the 10 UN resolutions calling Vietnam to cease her occupation of Cambodia and remove all her troops from the country. America too, she sees the Vietnamese leaders as liars expressed in this statement made by the US President Reagan. US president Reagan calls Vietnam to restore Cambodia Independence . President Reagan's address to the 43d Session of the United Nations General Assembly in New York, New York,September 26, 1988. "Mr. Secretary-General, there are new hopes for Cambodia, a nation whose freedom and independence we seek just as avidly as we sought the freedom and independence of Afghanistan. We urge the rapid removal of all Vietnamese troops ...." Are you proud to be a Vietnamese communist agent & liar vis a vis a Cambodian and the Cambodian people ? --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: CAMBODIA: the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 10:08 PM Everyone tries to hide the fact that American did kill more than 600000 Khmers in 1969. I don't understand why? --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 2:00 PM the title of discussion is on CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline. sorry you are in the wrong place . can you read english ? --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 2:59 AM Everyone tries to hide the fact that American did kill more than 600000 Khmers in 1969. I don't understand why? --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 1:16 PM the title of discussion is on CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline. sorry you are in the wrong place . can you read english ? --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 2:00 AM Everyone tries to ignore the fact that American did kill more than 600000 Khmers in 1969. I don't understand why? --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 12:56 PM the title of discussion is on CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline. sorry you are in the wrong place . can you read english ? --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 1:49 AM I'm concerning about "the 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 Khmer deaths"! Americans & J. McCain killed 600000 Khmers! --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 11:57 AM The issue here is related to Angkor period , not the Vietnam war. --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 12:52 AM This book is written by an Amrican, buddies! Read it for more facts... Lying for Empire How to Commit War Crimes With A Straight Face by David Model. --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 4:38 AM Interesting emotional remarks based on fiction with no facts to support it . Please verify if the figure 600,000 deaths of innocent Cambodian as the results of the NVN/VC troops, Pathet Lao (NVN troops) under FUNK label killings from 1970-1975 ? We have documents to support this figure. The issue here is related to Angkor period , not the Vietnam war. --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ông-thu N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 6:57 AM Everyone tries to ignore the fact that American did kill more than 600000 Khmers in 1969. I don't understand why? ================================= In 1969, President Richard Nixon and his National Security Advisor, Henry A.. Kissinger, unleashed B-52 carpet bombing for over fourteen months against a people who still tilled the soil with water buffalo............. The 3,500 bombing sorties resulted in 600,000 deaths. The American bombing of Cambodia was a closely guarded secret primarily because the U.S. was not at war with Cambodia. --- On Wed, 10/8/08, sacravatoons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: sacravatoons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CAMBODIA : the Angkor period & causes of decline To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 10:35 AM Hi Ek Udom Kangarooo, Everyone does ! It's not OK to kill anyone.It's a Crime against Humanity !!!! Hitler had killed Jews from their Extremist-German..... In Cambodia without Yuon-Hanoi & Chen Peking ,Khmer Rouge were just a bunch of leftist group with a few guns. And we had known guys like Heng Samrin or Chea Sim would be cattle-smugglers at the border Khmer-Yuon until they died Scambia never be an Independence state as long as Yuon-Hanoi is there. So by your theory after Khmer Rouge killed his own people 2.5 million lives....It's OK for Yuon-Hanoi & Hun Xen had a plot,K5 operation, to kill Khmer innocents of 250,000 lives ?( according to Pen Sovann witnessed ). Could you, enlight more the operation K5, the crime against Humanity in Cambodia under Yuon-Hanoi ruling ? Thanks. Cheers, Bun H. > > So are you trying to say that if Vietnam or others did it, it's ok for > Cambodia to do it? > Are you trying to say that if Hitler killed so many Jews, it would be > ok for Cambodians to kill their own in millions? > Is that how Cambodians conduct themselves as a society and an > independent country? > > > On Oct 4, 5:11 pm, "sacravatoons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Everyone is crying when she or he in low situation. >> Yuon-Hanoi was a crying Wolf when she was under the oppression from >> French,Jap & American. >> Now Yuon-Hanoi is boss of Cambodia & Laos....and she thinks she's >> invincible. >> We wait to see her is crying again under the ruling of China and she will >> blame China as in the past >> she had blamed France,Jap & US. >> Lord Buddha said : Everything is Impermanence .We'll wait and see it. >> >> Cheers, >> Bun H. >> >> >> >> > You have to remember that Cambodian king indulged to fulfill their own >> > thirst, which lead to the lost part of the Angkor empire. It happned >> > for a very long time, and Cambodians are still crying today. Actually, >> > they still cry against the Veitnamese and Thai. >> > Yet they don't think about themselves. They continue to weaken their >> > own society by using their own personal indulging over no one but >> > their own people in their own country. >> > Then they continue to blame on Vietnamese and Thai. >> >> > On Oct 4, 7:51 am, Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> CambodiaTHE ANGKORIAN PERIOD : he Eastern Baray (reservoir or >> >> tank),evidence of which remains to the present time. Its dikes, which >> >> may >> >> be seen today, are more than 6 kilometers long and 1.6 kilometers >> >> wide. >> >> The elaborate system of canals and reservoirs built were the key to >> >> Kambuja's prosperity for half a millennium. By freeing cultivators >> >> from >> >> dependence on unreliable seasonal monsoons, they made possible an >> >> early >> >> "green revolution" that provided the country with large surpluses of >> >> rice. Carvings show that everyday Angkorian buildings were wooden >> >> structures not much different from those found in Cambodia today. The >> >> impressive stone buildings were not used as residences by members of >> >> the >> >> royal family. Rather, they were the focus of Hindu or Buddhist cults >> >> that >> >> celebrated the divinity, or buddhahood, of the monarch and his family. >> >> The king,regarded as divine, owned both the land and his subjects. The >> >> Brahman priesthood A small class of officials, who >> >> numbered about 4,000 in the tenth century. The commoners, who were >> >> burdened with heavy corvée (forced labor) duties. There was also a >> >> large >> >> slave class >> >> >> CAUSES OF DELCINE : >> >> After Jayavarman VII's death, Kambuja entered a long period of decline >> >> that led to its eventual disintegration. >> >> A. >> >> B. >> >> Preaching austerity and the salvation of the individual through his or >> >> own her efforts, Theravada Buddhism did not lend doctrinal support to >> >> a >> >> society ruled by an opulent royal establishment maintained through the >> >> virtual slavery of the masses. (from >> >> The Thai were a growing menace on the empire's western borders. The >> >> spread of Theravada Buddhism, which came to Kambuja from Sri Lanka by >> >> way >> >> of the Mon kingdoms, challenged the royal Hindu and Mahayana Buddhist >> >> cults. Library of Congress Country Studies) >> >> The Angkorian period lasted from the early ninth century to the early >> >> fifteenth century A.D. >> >> In terms of cultural accomplishments and political power, this was the >> >> golden age of Khmer civilization. >> >> The great temple cities of the Angkorian region, located near the >> >> modern >> >> town of Siemreab, are a lasting monument to the greatness of >> >> Jayavarman >> >> II's successors. . >> >> The Angkorian complexes were built. The construction of a huge >> >> reservoir >> >> north of the capital to provide irrigation for wet rice cultivation. T >> >> The construction of the temple city complex of Angkor Wat.............. >> >> Angkorian society was strictly hierarchical. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> >> From: Sarin Nou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2008 9:08:34 AM >> >> Subject: CAMBODIA : Historical Background >> >> >> CAMBODIA : Historical Background >> >> * The Time of Greatness, A.D. 802-1431 >> >> * Period of Decline, 1431-1863 >> >> * The French Protectorate, 1863-1954 >> >> * The Japanese Occupation, 1941-45 >> >> * The First Indochina War, 1945-54 >> >> * The Second Indochina War, 1954-75 Military Developments Under the >> >> Khmer >> >> Rouge >> >> * Khmer Rouge Armed Forces >> >> * Khmer-Vietnamese Border Tensions >> >> * Vietnamese Invasion of Cambodia- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. 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