There is no need to ask a professor from a pre-era Khmer Rogue about Khmer history. If the Khmers do not have their history documents, they still can get any document from any country at any time. Any country in this case mean excluding their neighbors.
People should not worry about the fabrications of any history by either the Thais or the Vietnamese. The whole worlds 99.99% are holding the valid history documents. The neighbors are at risk of losing credibility for creating deceitfulness. It’s leading them to the path of insecurities. They are showing their vulnerability of losing the vast captured & stolen Khmer land. If they want fabricate false history, let them do it. If they want claim Ankgor Wat belongs to them, let them do it. If they want claim Cambodia belong to them, let them do it. After all, this is a right thing for them to do, because it will help them to give back what isn’t belong them originally. If you want to take down something, you must first let it grow. Should let the Thais capture Preah Vihear, and Cambodia should quietly mobilize enough forces to attack deep inside Thailand. The opportunity was there for Cambodia, but this corrupted government is backward, weak and unable. It does prove a corrupted government will lead its people to nowhere On Jul 12, 6:06 am, KULEN MONOROM <[email protected]> wrote: > Mr. Hun Sen in Paris > [KI-Media note: The following text was also distributed in Khmer, however, > because we do not have access to the Khmer fonts used, we are unable to > publish the Khmer text. If someone from CFC/CBC reads this message, please > send us the Khmer text in PDF format to [email protected]] > > Unofficial translation from French by Tola Ek > Mr. Hun Sen in Paris > > Mr. Hun Sen does not receive good press coverage in France. For several years > now, major newspapers in Paris never ceased to harshly criticize the > corruption gangrene, the violations of human rights, the relentless > dictatorial violence and other “dirty jobs” of his regime. According to our > French friends, his current visit to Paris was organized under his “insistent > request” made during several months and following “serious preliminary > discussions” between his representatives (including the one conducted by his > minister Hor Nam Hong during last May) with the French authority. > > We were assured also that the French government is fully aware of the facts > and events which are taking place in Cambodia. Furthermore, in announcing the > visit of Mr. Hun Sen, the [French] ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a > communiqué recalling that France “co-presided the Paris Accords (on Cambodia) > in 1991 which initiated the reconstruction process of this country.” It is > hoped that during upcoming meetings between Mr. Hun Sen and his ministers > with their French counterparts, the issues of human rights and the rule of > law in Cambodia would be raised with a positive contribution from France > because of the more than century-long links between France and the true Khmer > Country and People who have suffered and endured so much during the past > decades. > > However, there is another aspect of the Cambodian prime minister’s visit to > France that should be underscored: Mr. Hun Sen succeeded in securing an > invitation to attend the 14 July parade commemorating the well known French > Revolution in 1789 on the honorary podium. Therefore, it is clear that the > Khmer kingdom’s “Strongman” is coming to Paris to try to dust off his > tarnished image, and he is hoping that his presence among prestigious head of > states would confer on him a “mark” of recognition of his power, at least > from the outside, at a time when the economic crisis and internal, as well as > border troubles seriously shake his regime. > > In fact, Mr. Hun Sen is coming also to talk about “major regional issues” at > a time when the regional context is rather dangerous: the impasse under which > the Preah Vihear temple conflict was reignited by Thailand, the currently > known increased tensions between Vietnam (which Mr. Hun Sen’s regime is > largely a client of) and China, and the influence of these two countries on > Cambodia currently. > > Regarding the Thai military occupation of Preah Vihear, let’s recall that, on > 22 July 2008, Mr. Maurice Ripert, France ambassador to the UN, following > Cambodia’s complaint, called for an “immediate meeting” of the UN Security > Council to find a peaceful solution – a legal solution abiding to the current > international norms and conventions. His action was based on the procedure > stipulated by the 1991 Paris Accords on Cambodia to resolve such problem. > However, Mr. Hun Sen, hoping to obtain some cool off in order to spare his > interests in the region, instead opted for “bilateral negotiations” demanded > by Bangkok which resulted in spectacular bloody failures and Thailand’s > categorical refusal to withdraw its troops from the temple area. On the other > hand, all signs also point to the fact that Vietnam is readying itself to > toughen its position against China, a situation that could cause a general > conflict which would be very difficult to > contain. Because he is linked to the engagement of “defense cooperation” > with Hanoi, more so than ever, Mr. Hun Sen must obtain particular > considerations and recognitions through either material support or, at least, > political support from the West, and from France, in particular. > > What will happen, if following this short visit in Paris, Cambodia’s > “Strongman” would be able to “polish” his image on his return to Phnom Penh? > The answer is that, Cambodia – which is already drowned under a culture of > impunity, under a corrupt regime, under denial of rights, under violence, > under generalized top-to-bottom irresponsibility, under the plundering of the > national heritage to the benefit of neighboring hereditary enemies –could > face a more painful fate that the one it has known for the past more than 30 > years. > > Paris, 11 July 2009 > For Cambodia’s Border Committee in France and Worldwide, > > (Signed) Dy Kareth > Vice President > ---------- > > CFC/CBC 110709F > M. HUN SEN à Paris > > M. Hun Sen n’a pas bonne presse en France. Les grands journaux parisiens ne > cessent depuis des années de dénoncer durement la gangrène de la corruption, > les violations des droits de l’homme, les allures suivies de violences > dictatoriales et autres « basses oeuvres » de son régime. Sa visite à Paris > d’aujourd’hui, selon nos amis français, a été organisée à sa « demande > insistante » formulée depuis de nombreux mois, et après de « sérieuses > discussions préliminaires » entre ses représentants (dont son ministre Hor > Nam Hong, en mai dernier) avec les autorités françaises. > > L’on nous a rassuré aussi que le Gouvernement français est bien au courant > des faits et événements qui se déroulent au Cambodge. D’ailleurs, en > annonçant la venue de M. Hun Sen, un communiqué du ministère des Affaires > étrangères français a rappelé aussi que la France « a co-présidé, en 1991, > les Accords de Paris (sur le Cambodge) qui initièrent le processus de > reconstruction de ce pays ». Il est à espérer qu’au cours d’éventuelles > entrevues de M. Hun Sen et ses ministres avec leurs homologues français, les > questions des droits de l’homme et de l’Etat de droit au Cambodge, puissent > être abordées dans l’esprit et avec l’apport d’une contribution positive de > la France, en raison des liens plus que centenaires de cette dernière avec le > vrai Pays et le vrai Peuple khmers qui n’ont que trop souffert et enduré > durant ces dernières décades. > > Mais, il y a un autre aspect de la visite du Premier Ministre cambodgien en > France qui mérite d’être souligné : M. Hun Sen a réussi à se faire invité à > la tribune d’honneur du défilé du 14 juillet commémorant la retentissante > Révolution française de 1789. Ainsi, il est clair que l’« homme fort » du > royaume khmer est venu à Paris pour essayer de bien redorer son terne blason, > d’espérer par sa présence aux côtés des chefs d’Etat prestigieux obtenir, de > l’extérieur, une « marque » de reconnaissance de son pouvoir, à l’heure où la > crise économique et les troubles intérieurs et aux frontières agitent > sérieusement son régime. > > En effet, M. Hun Sen est venu parler « des principaux enjeux régionaux » > également, au moment où le contexte régional est plutôt dangereux : l’impasse > dans lequel se trouve le conflit du temple Preah Vihear rallumé par la > Thailande, et les tensions de plus en plus vives entre le Vietnam (dont le > régime Hun Sen est largement tributaire) et la Chine dans des conditions que > l’on sait, et l’emprise de ces deux Etats sur le Cambodge actuel. > > Sur l’occupation militaire thaïe de Preah Vihear, rappelons que l’ambassadeur > de France à l’ONU, M. Maurice Ripert, le 22 juillet 2008, s’est prononcé, sur > la plainte du Cambodge, pour une «réunion immédiate» du Conseil de sécurité > de l’ONU pour trouver une solution pacifique, une solution de droit au regard > des normes et conventions internationales en vigueur. C’était faire référence > à la procédure prévue par les Accords de Paris de 1991 sur le Cambodge pour > pareil problème. Mais, M. Hun Sen, pensant obtenir un certain apaisement de > nature à ménager ses intérêts dans la zone, a cru devoir opter pour des « > négociations bilatérales » exigées par Bangkok, avec des échecs sanglants que > l’on sait et le refus catégorique des Thaïs de retirer leurs troupes des > environs du temple. D’un autre côté, tout indique que le Vietnam se prépare > activement à durcir sa position vis-à-vis de la Chine, ce qui risquerait de > causer un conflit généralisé très difficilement maîtrisable. Et, lié par > l’engagement de « coopération de défense » avec Hanoi, M. Hun Sen se doit, > plus qu’à tout autre moment, de bénéficier des considérations et > reconnaissances particulières, par le soutien matériel et autre, du moins > politique de l’Occident, dont, en particulier, celui de la France. > > Qu’adviendra-t-il, après cette courte visite à Paris, si jamais le blason de > « l’homme fort » soit « redoré » à son retour à Phnom-Penh ? Le Cambodge, > baigné interminablement dans la culture de l’impunité, le règne de la > corruption, du déni de droit, et de la violence, la généralisation de > l’irresponsabilité du sommet à la base, la spoliation du patrimoine national > au profit des voisins-ennemis héréditaires, pourrait connaître un nouveau > sort plus douloureux encore que celui qu’il a connu depuis trente ans. > > Paris, le 11 juillet 2009 > P. Le Comité des Frontières du Cambodge > en France et dans le monde. > > Dy Kareth > Vice-Président > Click to Read More... > Posted by KI Media | Permalink | | 2 comments | Links to this post > Labels: Border conflicts | CBC | Hun Sen's trying to dust off his tarnished > image | Hun Sen's visit to France | Nicolas Sarkozy | Regional conflict | > Violation of human rights > Cambodia's approach to creating nationalism and national unity > But as a Khmer, this fool movie clip of Thai people will only affect bad to > themselves. Vietnam as well has claimed that Khmer Krom territory is part of > their ancestor land. Every nation has their own agenda to wake their people > up to love their nation and establish unity. But how about Cambodia? Current > government has been good in silencing opposition voice; intimidate, arrest > and put in jail those who have voiced their concerns about the national > interests. Is this act of government to wake people up to love their nation > and establish unity? > Op-Ed: Cambodian Bright Future > > Watching this link Thai's Lost Territorycaptured my thought of manipulative > effort of Thai historians to provoke Thai nationalism. But this information > was made up without having proper references and credibility. It is part of > Thai individual to provoke Thai nationalism in a wrong way. Not only > Cambodians who are furious with this video clip, Malaysia, Vietnam, Lao, > Burma and China are also shocked by this historical revelation. > > Sopheak, in his blog referred to his article written since 2007 put in his > questioning title that "Where Thai got those land from to be lost to someone > else? Thai has never skipped using kboun". It is touching to learn that the > video clip is overwhelmingly claiming Thailand's vast territory covered all > the land part of South East Asia region which Khmer people named its > "Sovannaphumi Peninsula". Thai historians might not able to claim the fact of > Sovannaphumi site in the region, so they must make up this movie clip to > benefit both reclaiming the fact of Sovannaphumi and invoking Thai > nationalism. > > Unlickily, Thai students have used the wrong book of Thai history. Thai > historians have invented history to favor their King without elaborating the > danger of information misleading and consequences of their academic > credibility. > > But as a Khmer, this fool movie clip of Thai people will only affect bad to > themselves. Vietnam as well has claimed that Khmer Krom territory is part of > their ancestor land. Every nation has their own agenda to wake their people > up to love their nation and establish unity. But how about Cambodia? Current > government has been good in silencing opposition voice; intimidate, arrest > and put in jail those who have voiced their concerns about the national > interests. Is this act of government to wake people up to love their nation > and establish unity? > > Your answers and inputs would be halpful to these questions? > > KY > 29 Comments > Close this windowJump to comment form > Anonymous said... > Wow..Where were thos Siamese when the Khmer empire begun? Those land are > belong to Khmer empire... They stole it form Khmer empire! How dare they say > that they lost those land? They must be a bunch of moron Siamese. They are > teaching the wrong history to their children...I think they are stupid people! > 9:06 AM > Anonymous said... > This video clips should be used as a wake up call for all khmers to unite and > prepare to defend our homeland. > 9:35 AM > Anonymous said... > Get someone who knew about Cambodian's history well to write the book and > teach Cambodian kids now. Keep searching, there should be some teachers and > professors who have survived the KR's regime. Try to get them back, even if > they are no longer living in Cambodia. By the way, did anyone do some > research as to how many Cambodian teachers and professors were actaully > surviving the KR's regime? > 9:44 AM > Anonymous said... > I watch a program on TV from the American National geographic about south > east Asia it said that Cambodia lost land to thailand and to vietnam.thailand > didn't exist during early Khmer Empire. > 9:45 AM > Anonymous said... > I think so. This clip is too wrong. They are stupid. However Khmer should > post the video clip of histories which was recorded officially and > internationally. But I am not sure all those documentation is still kept in > somewhere or not? Because we all faced too many internal civil war. The last > one Vietnamese soldiers controlled our country. So, they might clear all > those history documents. > 9:46 AM > Anonymous said... > នេះជាការបំភ្លៃប្រវត្តិសាស្ត្រដែលមិនអាចទទួលយកបានជាដាច់ខាត។យើងខ្ញុំក្នុងនាមជាកូនខ្មែរបានសិក្សារៀនសូត្រពីប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្តរបស់ខ្លួនទោះបីទាន់បានក្លាយខ្លួនជាអ្នកប្រវត្តិសាស្ត្រក្តីក៏ប៉ុន្តែពួកយើងដឹងច្បាស់ណាស់ថាខ្មែរគឺជាអាណាចក្រមហានគរមានទឹកដីធំទូលំទូលាយទល់ប្រទេសចិននិងភូមាសៀមគ្រាន់តែជាពូជចោរសមុទ្រប៉ុណ្ណោះ...។ > > ខ្ញុំសូមអំពាវនាវរដ្ឋាភិបាលកម្ពុជាប្រញាប់ប្រញាល់ដាក់លិខិតការទូតទាត់ចោលជាបន្ទាន់នូវការបំភ័នប្រវត្តិសាស្ត្រដ៏គគ្លើននេះ...វាចេញពីចេតនារបស់នាយករដ្ឋមន្រ្តីសៀមផ្ទាល់តែម្តង..នេះមានន័យច្បាស់ណាស់ថានាយករដ្ឋមន្រ្តីរូបនេះ[អាភីស៊ីត] > ចូលកាន់ដំណែងដើម្បីបង្កសង្រ្គាមតែម្តង។ > > វាប្រហែលជាពេលវេលាវិនាសអន្តរាយរបស់អាចោរសៀមជិតមកដល់ហើយពេលដែលស្តេចវាងាប់ទៅប្រទេសវានឹងមានសង្រ្តាមផ្ទៃក្នុងយ៉ាងធំមិនខាន...អាអាភីស៊ីតនឹងរលាយ...។ > 9:54 AM > Anonymous said... > ខ្ញុំចង់ស្នើសុំដល់កូនខ្មែរដែលមានស្នាដៃក្នុងការធ្វើវីដេអូដូចជាKI > Midiaអញ្ចឹងបង្កើតវីដេអូដាក់វិញទៅ...? > វាជារឿងអាក្រក់ណាស់បើថាជាវេបសាយធម្មតាទៅវាដូចជាធូរបន្តិចតែនេះជាវេសាយរបស់នាយករដ្ខមន្រ្តីនេះពិតជាអាក្រក់ណាស់មិនអាចទទួលយកបានជាដាច់ខាត។ > 9:59 AM > Anonymous said... > Khmer in Thailand, you need to wake up. > 10:02 AM > khmer said... > What's fuck the stupid Thai PM. He has known nothing about the history. Why > did the Thai people elected the stupid PM to represent the people? If PM is > so stupid how about the people of Thai? > 10:14 AM > Anonymous said... > This is an example of larger and stronger exploiting the weak. It is an > animal world... they are still animals...not so civilized as they claimed > themselves to be... Thai investing history is the injustice in their blood. > It shows the intend of aggression on others of their neighbors. Laos and > Burma must speak up against this evil devil neighbor or your territory will > be lost even more... > 10:19 AM > Anonymous said... > It's the start of the DECLINE of Siamese. For Vietnamese, it may take longer, > nothing can last forever. Khmers have suffered enough. > > Wait and see. > 10:21 AM > Anonymous said... > I have no knowledge of Thai language, but I noticed similarities between > Khmer and Thai pronunciations. > > Some Thai pronunciations sound similarly to those of Khmer such as > "Samaki(together), Prathet Thai (Thailand), Pravat theisat (history), Morha > Omnage (super-power), Samai(period), Bachabon (now), Santheh Vithee( > peace-solving), Komlaing (energy or force), Sakarak (sacred), Stabanh > (institution), Preah Mahascat (king), > 10:25 AM > Anonymous said... > This vedio is full of shit. > 10:26 AM > Anonymous said... > What did they say? > 10:28 AM > Anonymous said... > The truth- they did not lose their land, we did. So who are stupid, them or > us? Lets be honest with ourselves and take actions to correct it. Let see: > > 1. We kill our owns. > 2. We fight each other to prove our points. > 3. We scream to each other in a conversation to show our power. > 4. We sell our mothers for women. > 5. We think that everything will be taken care of by devine power and /or > individual and will not put up efforts to resolve the problems among > ourselves. > 6. We have a clan mentality instead of national mentality. > 7. We are very good as SERVANTS to foreigners, French, American,Chinese, > Vietnamese... > > Until we admit the above, stop living in the past, and stop blaming other > countries, more of our land will be lost. > > Lets us save Cambodia. > 10:30 AM > Anonymous said... > Mother of Preah Neang Tiv or Preah Nang Chao Suvadhana names Lek Bunnag. She > was a Cambodian woman from Battambang. Neang Tiv is the wife of Thai's King > Rama VI and her child could have been Thai's King or Rama VII, if she wasn't > born a daughter. King Bhumibol could have thanked her 500 millions times for > being born as a girl. Otherwise Bhumibol my boy, you would not exist. > 10:45 AM > Anonymous said... > Yes, she was Leak Bunnag in Khmer. > 10:46 AM > Anonymous said... > No Leak Bunnak in Khmer. Anyone remember Khun Ping or Khun Arun cheuy of > Phoum Wat Kor in Battambang? Queen Suvadhana or Neang Tiv looks just like > her. Only Neang Tiv was Chhum Aphaiwong 's granddaughter and Khun Ping is > Chuum Aphaiwong's nice and Chumm Aphaiwong is Khmer. Neang Tiv 's father is > Apahiwong's son. How in hell, did they get themself as Thai? Who knows? It > was the same as Thai using Cambodian vocabulary. Thai lost those territory, > because those Thai perhaps were Khmer in the first place. Only now they're > calling themself Thai. Just like the jombo Jerk Aphaiwongs who think of > themself as Thai. Now all the land that Cambodian was losing to them, it's > theirs and the one that still belong to Khmer, it's the one that they lost. > Oh, please Thai! get your act straight. We are as dumb as you think we are. > Bhuma, Loas , Vietnam and China should think the same. The is the true > historical fact of Khmer land. > 11:05 AM > Kon Khmer Massachusetts said... > Yep it's time to fight with Ah Siam Chong Rai... > 11:05 AM > Anonymous said... > No we aren't as dumb as you think we are Thai. Now face it. Prove to us that > Aphaiwong wasn't Khmer from Battambang. > 11:09 AM > Anonymous said... > Abhisit is full of shit. > 11:23 AM > Anonymous said... > Dictator Hun Xen have to know why?How crazy,you are Dictator Hun Xen to make > private busines with Siam and you Hanoi?Ah Kvang Hun Xen?You kill and destroy > the own people,how will you do against the own people?Hun Xen you wil soon to > the hell to meet your Ah uncle Ho Chi minh,you did very bad karma!!!! > 12:20 PM > Anonymous said... > Thailandor Thai King had taught and lied to their young people to hated > Khmer, they even told their young people that khmer robbs and stole > Thai-lands? but Thailand is the one instead! you see, how they twisted things > around? so, Abhisit is one of those stupid young people! their brains are > fuck up by their lier leader.... > 12:23 PM > Anonymous said... > In this movie clip,SIAM gov. has great idea to encourage their new generation > to fight and take back what ever they lost. > > How about KHMER gov. Hun Xen is trying to block everything that Cambodian > want to know. > > Hun Xen, you work for Youn & Siam. > 12:25 PM > Anonymous said... > Thailandhad done these lied for generations, to teach their youngster to > hated khmer and the neighbors... > 12:25 PM > Anonymous said... > I remembered when i was in refugee camp, i used to go to Norng > Samith"Thai-village", this khmer/thai family took me to bangkok city, she > alway instructed me not to speak any words, now i understand why.... > 12:32 PM > Anonymous said... > I don't mind to be a Thai citizen, as then can enjoy the protection from the > most powerful nation on the planet. > > Those mongrel Khmers are too blindly agressive, that was the reason the > country's teritory was narrowed by the retaliation from the neigboring states. > > Cambodia will exist from now on, but never be more prosperious than its > neigboring countries when they are possessing this agressive attitude. > > Thailand and Vietnam will never let Cambodia to reemerge to its Khmer Empire > by any mean. > 1:57 PM > Anonymous said... > Thai people, please don't let this fake video history destroyed our > relationship. Please reject this none sense of territory lost video. This > video can only bring hatred and misunderstading between our two nations. > Peace! > 2:03 PM > Anonymous said... > CambodiaTown > Long Beach, Ca > > Don't worried about the fascist Thai PM Abhisit Vejjajiva tried to influent > his political agenda. > Khmer compartiots were ready to defense our motherland. > > New Phally > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. > Show me how:http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. 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