Don't forget. US deals with Cambodia is not for the interest of Cambodians. Cambodians need to know that. US does things for the American interest first before anything else.
On Sep 10, 3:38 pm, Chetrasena <[email protected]> wrote: > KY : Today, the kingdom of Cambodia is moving to another > world .Majority of Cambodian people in the country seems to be happy > with the CPP under leadership of Somdech Maha Akka Sena Decho Hun > Sen . Whether you like or not he is the one whom everybody in the > world is doing business with especially American, he will meet the US > President this month . Do not forget American soldiers provided > training and assisting Hun Sen soldiers more than they did during the > Lon Nol .That is the new era of US policy, stability and security are > the main concern of USA ..Ceding land to other country, abusing power > against it citizen are not American business, they are Cambodian > business, there are plenty of dictators around the world .Hun Sen > rules Cambodia longer than his predecessors King Sinaouk, Lon Nol and > Pol Pot combined .There is no need to blame Hanoi, for the sake of > United Vietnam the countries of Lao and Cambodia must be > included .Along with rapid expansion policy of Vietnam, the > Ferderation will be financed by both Japanese and Korean with the help > of American, EU and Australia .The new generation of Cambodian is > happy with that move. For stability of the regime, there are two loose > institutions that Vietnam is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist > Sanghas. The collaboration of these two institutions with the ruling > party helped Vietnam to achieve their plan.because these institutions > are still served the backbone of the kingdom The people of the three > countries are freely moving from one place to another, no border no > visa no restriction .Yes, there are an obstacle for the unity of the > three countries too, especially among the stubborn Cambodian people > who opposed the plan and being hostile to the regime, but just a small > ban of subversive elements soon to be branded as terrorist group whom > has no sympathy from other people. The words of insurgencies or > rebellions are no longer used as this day for every ruling government. > > On Sep 10, 2:04 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Dear Chetrasena; > > > I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said > > is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I > > and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government > > under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam > > has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian > > government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas > > Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only > > biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, > > insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism. > > > Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the > > rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only > > with the dissents and opposition activists. > > > Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the > > farmers and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all > > Cambodian people countrywide not dare to protest or expressing opinion > > about the fast strengthening relationship between Cambodia and > > Vietnam. > > > I absolutely agree with the author about petitioning the government of > > Cambodia to disclose the plan of creating federation with Vietnam in > > accordance to irregular treatment to Cambodian people regarding their > > perspective about their relationship with Vietnam. This not include > > the cases of Khmer Krom people. They have gradually marginalized from > > Cambodian people after the frequent visits of Vietnamese leaders to > > meeting both secular powerful men and Buddhist partriarch. > > > The good way to do now is the need to know from the government to > > publicly disclose or announce the Indochina federation advancement > > with Vietnam and Loa of Cambodian government under current CPP > > leadership. > > > KY > > > On Sep 9, 10:01 am, Chetrasena <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > ky It is very interesting article. Majority of Cambodian people who > > > live in the country from the poorest to the richest are happy to live > > > in this Federation .The three countries have already been federated > > > just a matter of time to be promulgated officially.From economic stand > > > point about 80% of businesses are owned and operated by Vietnameses. > > > Look at the local markets in the city of Phnom Penh such as Psar > > > Kandal and Chbar Ampeou are exclusively controlled by Vietnamese > > > vendors. From people to people, Cambodian people in Cambodia are > > > living are second class of citizen. Cambodian officials in every level > > > are care of themselves and their families. In Cambodia there is no way > > > you can sue Vietnamese citizen, if you win you still lose. That is the > > > price we have to pay. HRP and SRP are just the joke from the eye of > > > Vietnam.Hanoi has invested too much in this Kingdom.Most Cambodian > > > officials are drunken by status, wealth monies, but they ignored the > > > future . My opinion > > > I supported Federation, let it be sooner or later it is going to be > > > that way whether you like or not. As I said couple years ago, I asked > > > for unity from all khmers regardless of their affiliations for the > > > sake of country survival, but they did not how to work together, they > > > only know how to divide each other.Hanoi is fully aware that the > > > serious threat to CPP is Royalist, once this organization dismantled > > > and brought this institution to the ground, the CPP will survive and > > > strong. To destroy Royalist party HRP and SRP were acting and > > > harbouring CPP to achieve the mission.Look at now, it is very easy for > > > CPP to subdue SRP . All of these are the hard work of CPP and Hanoi > > > together . If you compare Yellow shirts and Red Shirts in Thailand, > > > the yellow shirts are backed by institution Monarchy, the Red Shirts > > > are born from the Red Thai who fought for long time to get rid off > > > this institution that why their struggle are not supported by EU, USA > > > and England, they are not the core of democratic movement, now they > > > are labelled by the government as terrorist groups . You must > > > understand, Hanoi right now is the best ally of USA, so the CPP and > > > Pathet Lao, this is the policy of USA to contain China influence, and > > > Hanoi is pleased with US help to gain couple disputed Islands. > > > > On Sep 8, 10:27 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Federation Republic of Vietcamlao: An > > > > Introduction<http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/federation-republic...> > > > > > Cambodian people and their leaders are active than proactive, > > > > self-defensive > > > > than first striker; and they are peace-lovers until their enemies offer > > > > them > > > > a deal of "peace, security, economic development and many other > > > > incentives). > > > > It's common to see Cambodian politicians attacked each other by both > > > > verbal > > > > and physical. Cambodia politics didn't have much space for political > > > > maturity since the end of colonialism; and the aura of the cold war > > > > placed > > > > Cambodia into decades of civil war and many of their kins and brothers > > > > were > > > > mercilessly killed by their own hatred and ignorance. The arrival of > > > > current > > > > age of globalization and economic liberalization has not deposited > > > > Cambodia > > > > into a mature account. Many dissents and political opponents are still > > > > weary > > > > to show up and free themselves from the court system. > > > > > Ope-Ed: Sophan > > > > S.<http://vietcamlao.blogspot.com/2010/09/federation-republic-of-vietcam...> > > > > > *Introduction* > > > > Federal Republic of Vietcamlao recently appeared in a social network > > > > website > > > > named multiply.com posted by a Vietnamese called himself Phong. After > > > > that, > > > > we see this documents spread in many blogs such as > > > > ki-media.blogspot.com, > > > > cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com as well as Vietnamese website based > > > > in > > > > Montreal of Canada vietnamville.ca. Although those blogs/website > > > > sometime > > > > are not referral as an academic source, but they have played important > > > > role > > > > as the medium to bridge all people to debate political, social and > > > > economic > > > > issues. > > > > > The Vietcamlao plan is not considered a new plan if we review the > > > > history of > > > > Indochina Federation created by French colony. But the current > > > > Vietcamlao > > > > plan is significantly illustrating the mindset of Vietnamese people and > > > > leaders. *After reviewed the article and utilized online search engine > > > > effectively, I have found that the Vietnamese preamble at the beginning > > > > and > > > > the confederation article have been totally cut and pasted from other > > > > websites*. Part of Vietnamese language at the beginning was translated > > > > from > > > > wikipedia's article focused on > > > > Federation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation>. > > > > Part of the Confederation Article in English language was cut, pasted > > > > and > > > > edited from another website > > > > <http://www.barefootsworld.net/aoc1777.html>. > > > > The inconsistency of the document illustrates the incomplete work of the > > > > author, or it is considered just part of author's leisure time spending > > > > on > > > > the internet. *However, the mindset is really substantial for me to > > > > further > > > > study*. More than this, the proposed capital city at Danang is > > > > geopolitically significant; the drawing flag and its meaning as well as > > > > the > > > > federation map, all are attractive to further study the thought, effort > > > > and > > > > political trend of Vietnamese people and leaders in glancing at their > > > > neighboring countries: Cambodia and Lao. > > > > <http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hqgVFA7RYE4/TINCZA8R9zI/AAAAAAAADwU/bHMhcuH...> > > > > Vietcamlao > > > > Federal Republic flag, blue symbolizes the sea, red for courage and > > > > sacrifice to defend the country people, green for forests, plains, 5 > > > > stars > > > > for 5 represents primary state of North, > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. 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