I have always used picture frame float glass for use in wet plate.  I have 
never seen any problems related to the glass, other than pieces I have 
discarded because of scratches. I've made quite a few 30x40 prints from my 
half-plate negatives. I don't see why this glass couldn't be used for 
dry-plate. Thickness seems to vary by manufacturer.  I've come across some 
pretty thin glass. I suppose the glass I'm using could have imperfections 
that I just am not noticing but if so they are minute in comparison to the 
imperfections that can come up using the collodion process.

Bob Szabo

At 11:00 AM 6/3/02 +0800, you wrote:
>At 2002/5/31 20:59:00, you wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >I have been put onto by Mike Ware, who says you may be able to help me. I am
> >trying to research recipes for dry plate glass negatives. I have found it
> >very hard to locate information of what ingredients are used and how to
> >apply and develop the emulsion. Mike said that this thing is really your
> >area so I'm hoping you may be able to help me in some way or another.
> >
> >Regards
> >David Bolwell
> >
>Hi, David--
>
>Your inquiry caught my eye, because I have been exploring the Internet to 
>see what the state
>of glass-plate manufacturing might be. Except for specialized plates for 
>scientific applications,
>there seemed to nothing.  I was particularly interested in the fate of the 
>users of one-shot
>color cameras like the Devin, which were designed to take only plates 
>loaded in special
>registering holders.
>
>I have _Photographic Emulsion Techniques_ by T. Thorne Baker (Boston, 
>1941) which I am
>sure contains almost all the information you need. Although it covers 
>commercial production,
>Chapter III should be of particular interest to you. Here is a list of 
>what it covers:
>
>      III. Laboratory Equipment
>             Layout for Experimental Work -- Commercial Production and Its 
> Requirements --
>             Ventilation -- Safelights -- Digesting Apparatus -- 
> Thermostatic Control -- Washing
>             and Filtering of Emulsions -- Making up -- Cold Storage
>
>I have no idea whether there is anyone still around that could claim 
>copyright, but I hesitate
>to offer to scan its 187 pages. Perhaps if you could narrow down the 
>requirements of the plates
>you want to make, I could furnish you the information on an as needed basis.
>
>I have used dry plates (up to 11x14 in.) but on one occasion I even made 
>some 2x2 in. lantern
>slides. If you are working with unsensitized or orthochromatic emulsions, 
>the critical coating
>process can be done under a safelight. If you want to coat panchromatic 
>emulsions of any
>appreciable speed, a mechanical coating device is essential, and I know of 
>no off-the-shelf
>small-scale devices.
>
>However, there is an alternative. When panchromatic sensitization first 
>appeared,
>manufactured panchromatic plates were not always readily available, or 
>they were dear and
>beyond the budgets of some users. It is possible to sensitize a 
>blue-sensitive emulsion to the
>red and green portions of the spectrum by immersing it in a solution of 
>the sensitizing dye,
>draining it, and drying it, all of which can be done in complete darkness.
>
>A critical part of this whole process is the selection of the glass. It is 
>_not_ advisable to
>reclaim old glass plates, at least if they have a developed image. The 
>silver seems to be
>absorbed or adsorbed by the glass, leaving sites that will cause a 
>subsequent image to appear in
>  subsequent development.
>
>Ordinary window glass, unless glass manufacturing methods have improved 
>considerable,
>possesses striations which are going to disturb the uniformity of light 
>distribution, certainly
>during enlargement. The common glass manufacturing process used rollers to 
>draw the
>molten glass out of the vessel in a continuous process, with no guarantee 
>of uniformity of
>thickness or absence of internal strains. To produce glass of a higher 
>quality (plate glass) large
>slabs of glass of a lower grade were polished using huge surfacing wheels, 
>much like lens
>grinding.
>
>I have heard more recently of a clever technique which uses a large vessel 
>of molten tin. The
>molten glass is poured on it, where it has a chance to flow out into a 
>uniform thickness before
>it is drawn off and cooled. This could be for more than academic interest 
>to you if such glass
>is produced in thicknesses of 2 mm or so. This would give you glass of the 
>flatness that you
>need and still fit into a plate holder. I'm sure in the vast area of glass 
>manufacturing there will
>be sources for what you need, which at least in the past was usually 
>referred to in the literature
>as `B' glass. (By the way, Kodak once offered 20x24 in. plates on highly 
>finished glass, 0.25 in.
>in thickness.)
>
>But I could rattle on at even more tiresome length. I can be or more help 
>as you narrow your
>field of inquiry.
>
>George Arndt
>
>
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