Sounded like a fun time to be a programmer Jeff. I
regret missing out on it all but my priorities at 6
would have made it hard for me to land a job. You must
have seen a lot?

Stede

--- Jeff Grigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> --- Stede Troisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [...] I wonder what the market for programmers
> were
> > like the 60's, 70's and 80's.
> 
> I started using computers in '76, professionally in
> '81.
> 
> > Wasn't offshoring an issue with programmers back
> then?
> 
> Inadequate infrastructure:  It wasn't really an
> option.
> 
> > What happened when mainframes started to be
> replaced
> > by pcs?
> 
> In the late '80s people started trying to replace
> mainframes 
> with "mini computers" like DEC, and including Unix
> systems.  This 
> became more popular in the '90s.  Some people were
> successful, but 
> others failed for a wide range of issues, such as
> the difficulty and 
> risk of doing large development projects, and the
> integration issues 
> of distributed systems.
> 
> I see three tiers:
>  1. Mainframe.
>  2. Mini.
>  3. Microcomputers ("PCs")
> 
> As I see it, PCs as servers didn't really become a
> real option until 
> the mid to late '90s.  (Yes, before everyone
> objects:  I did TurboDOS 
> and MP/M servers in the early '80s; but hardly
> anyone would consider 
> an 8-bit TurboDOS file server to be serious
> competition for a 
> mainframe.  ;-)
> 
> > When did programmers start to be called
> Developers,
> > Software Engineers and stuff?
> 
> When the methodologies took off, and salaries rose. 
> I'd say 
> late '80s and in the '90s.
> 
> > Where there consultants back then or did everyone
> work
> > for IBM?
> 
> I was an independent contractor in '81.  We had
> nothing to do with 
> IBM.  Actually, we did a lot of work on Rexon and
> other "business 
> basic" and Pick micro and minicomputers.
> 
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