NETWORK WORLD NEWSLETTER:  RON NUTTER WITH ASK THE EXPERTS
11/17/04
Today's focus:  Network connectivity problems

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* Help Desk columnist Ron Nutter helps a reader battling a bad 
��hub/switch or an electrical problem
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Today's focus:  Network connectivity problems

By Ron Nutter

I have five machines that when booted, hang at the Windows 
splash screen. They are a mixture of Windows 2000 and XP Pro 
clients. When I take these same machines to my office, they boot 
up fine and connect to the network. But when I take them back to 
the customer network, they start having connectivity problems. 
After several days of bringing in brand-new systems, 
reformatting, OS repairs, cable changing, etc., I discovered 
that if I unplugged the Ethernet cable from the back, booted to 
the logon screen, plugged the cable in and logged on, everything 
was fine. Obviously this is not the way to go. Do you have any 
ideas? No one I have talked to has ever seen such a thing. I've 
replaced the cables from the machines to the patch panel and 
switches, and these machines have nothing in common as far as 
location on the switches or patch panel. 
- Via the Internet

What you're describing sounds like either a bad hub/switch or an 
electrical problem based on what you have tested so far. I would 
take one PC from your office to the customer location and see if 
it acts up like the ones at the customer location. I would 
expect it to based on what you have seen so far; I'm trying to 
see if the problem shows up on a machine that has never been on 
the customer network. If your machine shows the same symptoms, 
try a different hub/switch at the customer location. Put the 
test hub/switch in the same location as what is currently being 
used. Plug the workstation connection into it and into the 
network. If the problem goes away, but you can't login, move at 
least one of the servers over to the test hub/switch and repeat 
the process. If you have partial success or still can't login, 
you may be fighting more than one problem. If the problem goes 
away, you've isolated it to a bad hub/switch.

The next problem you might have will be harder to trace. You 
have one or more bad grounds. Testing for this will be easier if 
you have a digital oscilloscope or know an electrical engineer 
who knows how to use one. Using an oscilloscope will make 
finding a bad ground or working problem a little quicker to 
find. Don't depend on the quickie $20 testers you find in a 
hardware or electronics store. You might have some success with 
an APC-brand surge protection strip. Every time I've found a 
problem with the digital scope, the APC surge strip has also 
shown a problem. Also make sure that the outlets are wired 
correctly. See if all the problem workstations are being fed by 
the same power panel (i.e., breaker box to most of us). If your 
network is being fed by different breaker panels, you may be 
fighting a ground potential difference. This will definitely 
take an electrical engineer to figure out. One possible 
resolution will be to use fiber optics to feed the portions of 
the network that are fed by different electrical panels to 
electrically isolate them from the case of the problem. This may 
not be a cheap fix but one I've had to use on more than one 
occasion to fix a similar problem.
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To contact: Ron Nutter

Ron Nutter, a Master Certified Novell Engineer and Microsoft 
Certified Systems Engineer in the Lexington, Ky., area, tracks 
down the answers to your questions. Send your questions to 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
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