Hello all,
I really admire the work you are doing in this area of international,
structural and the crucial language issue. I am keeping up with the
email list, at least and still hope to be more active in the future.
Becky
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Chad Lupkes wrote:
On 8/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
Hi
Chad, hello all,
today I would like to make some language overlapping proposals for the
structure of the Campaign Wikia's.
Maybe anybody like some of this...
Unfortunately its very silent here. :-( And I miss Jimmy.
I would like to start working...
Ingmar
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Voters Guide
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I like the voters guide on the basis of the UN geoscheme and I think
this should be a perfect base for all language wikias. My personal
opinion. :)
If this is agreed by the majority of users on a particular
language site, then translating the geoscheme and the regional
templates should be a priority for that site. I don't think that can
or should be part of an automatic translation script. All the
templates are open for copying.
I
would like, if candidates would also get a personal User Acount (!), so
that the topics from the candidates would have three scopes and the
political candidates activ will be integrated:
1. a neutral scope, where the candidates have nothing to seek and where
the information about the candidate will only write from the peoples in
a neutral form
2. a scope only for the candiate, where the candidate can declare
oneself and take a stand about topics
3. a own forum, where the candidate can discuss with voters
I believe the APOV policy, if approved by Jimmy Wales, would do
most of what you are asking for here. Although having each campaign
use our site as their primary forum would probably be beyond our
scope. One candidate in Maine has already had their own wikia site
created, although nothing much has been on there yet. I don't think
the language sites should be used by individual campaigns, but should
be a common hub for all campaigns to present their candidates and
policy recommendations.
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Electoral Calender
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I like the elctoral calender and i think this should be also a perfect
base for all language wikias. Only problem: the languages. If we have a
new entry in the english site, we will have no update on other language
sites and vice versa.
That's to be expected, and I don't believe that should change.
In my opinion, any translations need to be done manually, as it is done
on Wikipedia itself. We should encourage people who understand
multiple languages to compare and correct mistranslations and add
missing information, but I don't see any way to make that an automatic
process.
Solution:
international standarts. The main structure of all basic topics should
be set after colloborations generell as standarts. For the electoral
calender we should take the structure of the calender in english as the
standart, searchable by area. The administration of the country
calender should be by people from the countrys, which speak english and
her country language.
Then
this admins would make the following:
set the new entry in her country language and in english. So we would
have every entry in english and the country language. With the english
entry the people from all other languages can translate, if they want.
A example for the calender in english:
January xx 2007: Germany, President (en,de)
The same entry on the german wikia:
xx Januar 2007: Deutschland, Kanzler (en,de)
And on all other language sites will be stand automatical the english
entry:
January xx 2007: Germany, President (en,de)
And with the automatical english entry, the people can now desice:
either they let the entry in english or the translate in her home
language)
Again, I don't see how any of this can be automatic. It's going
to take someone seeing that an addition of content has occured, and
that person will have to ensure that the same content is translated and
copied to English, thus notifying people from the other language sites
of the new content.
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Campaigns Guide
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A campaigns guide, which is searchable by theme and area. So we could
choose or create a campaign over four ways.
theme > area > campaigns
area > theme > campaigns
theme > all campaigns
area > all campaigns
Themes as basic topics like "Civil Rights", "Education" etc. with
undertopics with the special themes to the basic theme, like on campaigns.wika.com
But I think this basic topics should be set after a colloboration as
standarts for all language Wikias, so that the interchange with links
is easy. Different basic topics for themes would be very complicating
for the international work. Maybe the UN has also a guide for political
standart topics scopes? If yes, we should only translate this in the
single languages. If not, we should create our own :)
For the campaigns sites I think its also very important, that the basic
site of a campaign is compact. Short informations with links in the
information text to underpages or outside links (for example
Wikipedia). So people can decide: Need I more information as the
standartinformation or not? If yes, the people can click the links in
the text. If not, they can fast make here pro _or_ contra statement or
read infos for meetings or actions.
But this is also general important: Many people have not the time and
the patience to read longer texts. So it would be good if we would set
such a practice as a standart: fast introduction - and if they need
more infos, they can click the links in the infotext to underpages or
outside links.
This standart headings or scopes I would propose:
info (compact campaign info with deeper links), pro, contra, list of
supporters, meetings, actions, weblinks, forum
The category structure on English came from the articles that
were being created. Looking at the German [[Kategorie:Themen]], it
looks like many of the categories have been established, but are
waiting for articles that fit. We're trying to keep unused categories
to a minimum in English.
I also notice that you are being much more theme focused than
candidate focused. That's a difference between the United States and
Germany that I would love to explore further. I would love to see
politics on our side of the Atlantic be focused more on values and
policy rather than the charisma of this or that candidate, but our
lives are being kept so busy with work that it's hard to maintain focus
on the issues.
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This structurally proposals for today...
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