New Friends and new adversaries:
Thank you for the healthy debate. Just to let you know, democracy at its root, is built upon political dialogue. To limit dialogue (or even to try to censor it by confining it to an "on-line ghetto" of a blog that no one will read) is simply anti-democratic.
I am a Clerk of Elections for this Nov. 7th, will be working with 3 other Republicans and 6 Democrats in a non-partisan setting, all to insure that our democratic process is done freely, not coerced, free of corruption, and with the opportunity for all political voices to be represented. Contrary to the "Jim Crow" laws of the pre-Civil Rights south that tried to take away the right to vote, so also are many in this forum equally trying to take away the rights of their fellow citizens. In our manual, it even states several times, "Never send a voter away or deny a voter the right to vote for any reason." (Poll Worker Manual, Pinellas County, Florida, p.49). By trying to limit freedom of speech, the ugly side of our society is showing its true colors . . . whether it's Republicans limiting due process for terror suspects (even allowing torture) or Democrats making all opposition to abortion a crime, the enemies of true democracy are within each respective political party. You know who you each are . . .
Blessings,
Rob J. King, American
Abiding Life Christian Ministries--Phoenix & Tampa Bay
Ministry Home Page: http://abidinglifephoenix.com/default.aspx
From: Christopher Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: continued inflammatory and off-topic responses to constructiveemails[was Re: [Campaigns-l] blog efficiency in politics: theFinland case]
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:48:39 -0500
Well Luis see how far we americans can get without an international economy I would wager to bet that atleast half of the goods you use in your household are from other countries...one thing I will never understand is how conservatives insist that patriotism means you must be against an international economy and aid to support the growth of nations to endure and participate in that community.-Christopher Rivera
On Oct 23, 2006, at 9:28 AM, CH Rob J King wrote:
Luis, Other than Spanish politicains who like Opus Dei, Irish who like U2 and Tony Blair and co, I generally like insulting Europeans . . .
. . . from "Freedom Fries" to not wanting American Forces serving under the U.N., I am about as red-neck politically as you can get . . . NOT RACIST, but redneck . . . In other words, the days of European bankers living off of the sweat & blood of my African Christian brothers and sisters is drawing to a close . . . Bill Gates, Bono & George W. , , , PACEM, Rob J. King, Republican
CH Rob J. King, M.Div., Th.M., Ph.D. (ABD*)Chaplain, 345th, AR-MEDCOMProfessor of Bible and Christian Ministry Grand Canyon University-Online
Abiding Life Christian Ministries--Phoenix & Tampa Bay
Ministry Home Page: http://abidinglifephoenix.com/default.aspxMinistry E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright that God may love thee. Speak the truth always even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong." --The vow of a Christian Knight, Kingdom of Heaven http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320661/
From: "Luis Villa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: continued inflammatory and off-topic responses to constructive emails[was Re: [Campaigns-l] blog efficiency in politics: the Finland case]
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:25:30 -0400
>Is this is going to be your stock response to every European who
>posts
>constructive emails about the use of technology in politics, Rob? Or
>is this a one-time unconstructive and off-topic response? If it
>isn't
>one-time, I would again ask you to find some place else to insult
>people who are trying to constructively reach the goals of this
>list.
>
>[Of course, I'm happy to be wrong about this being off-topic and/or
>unconstructive; perhaps there is something here I've missed.]
>
>Luis (also wondering how many people have unsubscribed over the past
>few days)
>
>On 10/22/06, CH Rob J King
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Attila, Do Europeans even still exist??? After all, with killing
>>off y'all's babies in the womb, killing off the sick and dying
>>(i.e. the Netherlands with its euthanasia laws!) and now lesbians
>>wanting to de-fertlilize themselves, how are you going to still be
>>a people group??? My guess is that Europe will simply become an
>>extension of Islam in the coming years . . .
>>
>>Please see the Pope's article "Europe and Its Discontents" for a
>>"scholar's scholar" view on the dissolution of Europe . . .
>>http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft0601/articles/benedict.html
>>Remember that Pope Benedict XVI is a highly trained scholar who
>>would teach at schools such as Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Yale,
>>etc. even if he were not the Pope (i.e. his academic mettel alone
>>would grant him a chaired professorship in the elite universities
>>of Europe and N. America
>>
>>Blessings,
>>
>>Rob J. King, Ph.D. (ABD*) (trained in theology at Duke University
>>and the University of Notre Dame)
>>
>>
>>CH Rob J. King, M.Div., Th.M., Ph.D. (ABD*)
>>Chaplain, 345th, AR-MEDCOM
>>Professor of Bible and Christian Ministry Grand Canyon
>>University-Online
>>Abiding Life Christian Ministries--Phoenix & Tampa Bay
>>Ministry Home Page: http://abidinglifephoenix.com/default.aspx
>>Ministry E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>"Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright
>>that God may love thee. Speak the truth always even if it leads to
>>your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong." --The vow of
>>a Christian Knight, Kingdom of Heaven
>>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320661/
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>From: "Attila Csordas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: [Campaigns-l] blog efficiency in politics: the Finland
>>case
>>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:40:35 +0200
>>
>>
>>Hi everybody,
>>
>>An interesting story about the political power of a Wordpress blog
>>focused on one campaign:
>>http://wordpress.com/blog/2006/10/19/blog-activism/
>>
>>"We just got this note from Tina in Finland, who agreed to let us
>>blog it here. Regardless of how you may feel about the issue, it's
>>a pretty powerful story. Thanks to the fantastic flexibility of
>>WordPress, I was able to make a campaign site supporting the
>>legalization of fertility treatments for single women and lesbians
>>in Finland that quite possibly was a major factor in the law
>>passing. (Treatments had been available before, but had not been
>>explicitly legal, and the conservative parties had introduced a
>>motion to make them illegal) The site shot up in popularity and we
>>were sent statements by all kinds of politicians, including EU
>>reps, ministers, and members of parliament. In the end, treatments
>>were legalized by a 22 vote margin (83-105) which was far more than
>>anyone dared to predict." ....
>>
>>
>>It would be terrific, if there were more cooperations and
>>intersections between blogs and wikis concerning real participatory
>>politics.
>>
>>Cheers, Attila Csordas,
>>http://pimm.wordpress.com/
>>
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