With the choice of petitions offered you sign the ones you feel are relevant 
to your ideas. As for the effects of light pollution most older star watchers 
agree that even a few years ago you could see a lot more stuff up there - 
especially near the horizon. Our in the country the stars positively glared 
down at you while in towns on a good night you could see the milky way winding 
and twisting across the sky. Now in everytown, the few stars visible on a clear 
night are seen through a yellow/orange sodium glow while even out in the 
country the quality of seeing is reduced by a background glare which is strong 
enough to produce a good spectrum.
   
   Some new euro laws just come in UK concerning extreme light pollution. But, 
at the same time the home office and  the police are actually recommend that we 
should have more outside and security lights to help foil crime. (If you don't 
then it's your fault.) Of course it's just another example of disjointed 
government thinking.
   
    I understand that in the US there are shops selling special non polluting 
lights (?) and also, in that gun loving land, there are groups of extreme dark 
lovers going round in wild places were one light can be seen for 20 miles, 
shooting the offending lights out. Of course this may be just a tall tale.
   
    One of the reasons we boat is to get away from it all, and a part of that 
is to be able to go on deck at night a do a bit of binocular work looking at 
the stars. This works best in places where it's dark and where there are few 
bright lights around to ruin your night vision. Nowadays getting to somewhere 
like that is getting more difficult. 
   
   As for these petitions, unlike the current charges one (which is against 
government plans) these suggestions won't cost them anything to implement so 
something might come of them... 
   
   
                                                                        David 
Cragg
   
  

Daniel Hutchinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          --- In [email protected], David Cragg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Among the many government petitions are a group about light 
pollution. If anyone is interested to view and maybe sign any of them 
I offer the link below. As the gent who recommended them to us 
suggested - we want to save the planet for our children and it would 
be nice if could keep the stars for them as well.
> 
> Please also spread the word around as much as possible - every 
little helps.
> 
> < http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/search?q=light+pollution >
> 
>

There seam to be many of them that come up under that search 
critiria, any one in partiular that you where referencing to?

I have signed these three.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/light-pollution/
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/BusinessLights/
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Floodlighting/

Personaly i feel its quite a big issue.
- Like everything, its go to be a ballence. I dont mind one half 
kilowatt lighting the odd building of special interest, or a pub. But 
when every single tom dick or harry has 15 1.5KW floods making the 
place glow like the sun, that take the piss.
- Simularly with streetlights, im not agasint that directly, in 
places there good, and make driving safer and easyer. However we do 
need to put some more effort into sheailding them more effectly to 
get maxmamum usage of the energy.
- And as for offices/shops/schools leaving there lights on 24/7 even 
when there only ocupided 9 till 5 is criminal in this day any age or 
any before it. TURN THEM OFF!!

I wrote a letter to uni actaully, about the fact that our hall 
corridor lights all stay on 24/7.
- 16*2watts per light, Eight or so lights per block, 15 blocks per 
hall, 12 or so halls. Thats 1100kWh a day if ive done my sums right!

But yeah, they said that in the new halls there building this year, 
they are already going to fit light sensotive fittings, so that they 
switch of when its light enough (thoughtout the day) and possably 
also timmers on certain lights to switch off during times when most 
people will be asleep. With plans to retro-fitt them to other hall if 
they are a success.
- Might not be earth shattering, but assuming it goes ahead, its a 
good step forwards.

Daniel



         

 
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