On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thom...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 1 July 2015 at 06:13, Tero Kivinen <kivi...@iki.fi> wrote: >> Which means >> every time I go to the Helsinki Airport, I need to start browser, and >> try to access something so I can click "I agree" so I can get my >> emails downloading in the background. > > That may be a legal constraint.
Yup, in a number of jurisdictions the network provider is required to be able to identify the people connecting for legal reasons. In a bunch of other cases the network operator has been advised by their lawyers that they need customers to accept an AUP, promising not to do anything naughty. I think that we should rule the *reason* for the captive portal's existence out of scope (or we're likely to get wrapped around endless political type fights) and simply acknowledge that there are 3 main types: 1: Those that require some information / acknowledgement, like an AUP. 2: Those that require payment 3: Those that require you to be an eyeball - an example of this is the Wifi at Dulles airport (IAD) - the network is provided by AT&T (IIRC) and you have to watch a fairly long video advert before you get access. A related thing is requiring you to access Facebook and "Like" an organization / install an app, etc. -- see http://www.recaptive.net/features/captiveportal/ These different types may be important for the interaction system -- for example, the 3rd type is less likely (IMO) to allow a fully hands-free login experience. In order to make this all actually work, we are going to have to create an environment where users, OS vendors, captive portal vendors and captive portal operators can all work together towards improving the user experience, and not pass judgement on motivations, etc. > The network they provide isn't > entirely for your convenience. That said, one potential mechanism is > one where the "portal" establishes a cookie that you can use next time > to automatically log in. Previous visits being perhaps the only > example where automatic login is actually easy. Yup. E -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf _______________________________________________ Captive-portals mailing list Captive-portals@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/captive-portals
