Hi Roman,

I’ve published the working copy as the -08 version of the draft: 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-capport-api 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-capport-api>

Please take a look, and update your evaluation if it looks good!

Best,
Tommy

> On Jun 11, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Roman Danyliw <r...@cert.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tommy!
>  
> The proposed edits in the working copy look good and address all of my 
> discuss and comments.  Thanks for making the changes.
>  
> Regards,
> Roman
>  
> From: Tommy Pauly <tpa...@apple.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 2:09 PM
> To: Roman Danyliw <r...@cert.org>
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> capport-cha...@ietf.org; captive-portals@ietf.org; Martin Thomson 
> <m...@lowentropy.net>
> Subject: Re: Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-capport-api-07: (with 
> DISCUSS and COMMENT)
>  
> Hi Roman,
>  
> Thanks for your comments! I’ve updated our working copy with this commit:
>  
> https://github.com/capport-wg/api/commit/ef6f9afe84f2e49827560b5e2e8f292966107896
>  
> <https://github.com/capport-wg/api/commit/ef6f9afe84f2e49827560b5e2e8f292966107896>
>  
> The full editor’s copy can be viewed here:
>  
> https://capport-wg.github.io/api/draft-ietf-capport-api.html 
> <https://capport-wg.github.io/api/draft-ietf-capport-api.html>
> 
> 
> On Jun 9, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Roman Danyliw via Datatracker <nore...@ietf.org 
> <mailto:nore...@ietf.org>> wrote:
>  
> Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for
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> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> DISCUSS:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> “Discuss discuss”.  Section 4 says “The API server endpoint MUST be accessed
> using HTTP over TLS (HTTPS) and SHOULD be served on port 443 [RFC2818].”  
> There
> is also various guidance on verifying the API server identity and access to
> revocation and time resources.  However, the way I read the definition of the
> “Captive Portal API Server” per Section 2 and per Figure 1 of
> draft-ietf-capport-architecture, the API server is logically different than 
> the
> service at the user-portal-url URL (i.e., Web Portal Server in the
> architecture).
> 
> Section 7.1 helpfully points out “Information passed between a client and a
> Captive Portal system may include a user's personal information, such as a 
> full
> name and credit card details.  Therefore, it is important that Captive Portal
> API Servers do not allow access to the Captive Portal API over unencrypted
> sessions.”  The first sentence is makes sense, but the second, while true,
> doesn’t follow the first for me.  PII and credit card information would be the
> kind of input you would provide to the _Web Portal Server_ not the Captive
> Portal API (of course both are part of the overall Captive Portal system).
>  
> This has been updated to:
>  
> Information passed between a client and the user-facing web portal may 
> include a user's personal information, such as a full name and credit card 
> details. Therefore, it is important that both the user-facing web portal and 
> the API server that points a client to the web portal are only accessed over 
> encrypted connections.
>  
> 
> 
>  I
> feel there is missing guidance roughly on the order of the user-portal-url
> “provides the URL of a web portal _that MUST be accessed over TLS_ with which 
> a
> user can interact.” (and the venue-info-url SHOULD use TLS too).
>  
> Good point. This was implicit in some of our text, but needed to be stated:
>  
> - "user-portal-url" (string): provides the URL of a web portal that MUST be 
> accessed over TLS with which a user can interact.
> - "venue-info-url" (string): provides the URL of a webpage or site that 
> SHOULD be accessed over TLS on which the operator of the network has 
> information that it wishes to share with the user (e.g., store info, maps, 
> flight status, or entertainment).
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Both this draft and draft-ietf-capport-rfc7710bis-07 are fundamentally
> providing pointers to other resources.  Would it be out of scope for this
> document to place restrictions on what the API is capable of pointing to?  If
> not here, then where?
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Thanks for describing the protocol interaction within the reference
> architecture of draft-ietf-capport-architecture.
> 
> ** Ben points to a few places to tighten up the TLS mechanics (e.g.,
> referencing BCP195, non-OCSP stapling revocation) which I won't repeat here. 
> These are important.
>  
> Indeed. Please see responses to Ben’s comments.
> 
> 
> ** Are there any retry behavior to specify for the client?  Say the client
> tries to the visit the API URL and the server returns an HTTP 500 error? Or,
> the API server doesn’t respond at all?
>  
> I’ve added this text to clarify:
>  
> Client behavior for issuing requests for updated JSON content is 
> implementation-specific, and can be based on user interaction or the 
> indications of seconds and bytes remaining in a given session. If at any 
> point the client does not receive valid JSON content from the API server, 
> either due to an error or due to receiving no response, the client SHOULD 
> continue to apply the most recent valid content it had received; or, if no 
> content had been received previously, proceed to interact with the captive 
> network as if the API capabilities were not present.
> 
> 
> 
> ** Editorial Nits
> 
> -- Section 4.1. Typo.  s/mechnism/mechanisms/
> 
> -- Section 6.  Typo.  s/the the/the/
> 
> -- Section 6.  Typo. s/extenal/external/
> 
> 
>  
> Thanks! Fixed all of these.
>  
> Best,
> Tommy

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