Xue-Feng, Brad, Sanjiva

I am a wso2 advocate and add wso2 products wherever and whenever it fits.
People trust what i say about it but they only trust "*me*" to implement it.
Most people in the teams I have worked with have looked at wso2 products
and, because they could not get through their scenario, they call me to
implement or they discard it and use alternatives. (on top of this, i leave
in a spanish speaking country and the understanding of english is not good
in the IT world)

I find that the only product that got real adoption from everyone
(management, developers, operation teams) is the DataService Server.
It adds value by organizing data access, speeding development of
data connectors for specific projects, separating DBA concerns from
developers concerns,...
So the concept is easy to understand and the scenarios and samples are easy
to follow and implement.
I use to have the gui breaking my work so, I usually stay in the source when
adding new ds.

Other products are for experienced professionals that must embrace the full
WSO2 SOA concept, digest it and promote it.
Once that got to that point, they decide to get a proof of concept done and
face what you describe.

I must say that the wso2 products i use DO WELL what they are supposed to do
but it is difficult to understand correctly how to make them do it.


Cheers,

Guillaume


On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Xue-Feng Yang <just4l...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Sanjiva,
>
> Sorry for a late reply since I just found your message in Yahoo's trash.
>
> Two things I would like to emphasize:
>
> 1) Docs and samples are software artifacts, too. They, BOTH, should be
> constantly tested as products like other part of the software.
>
> 2) Docs and samples are the gate to wso2. They are the most important part
> for the products successful.
>
> On the other hand, I found only a few persons like Brad and myself in this
> list and user's list. We, both, were treated like college students
> sometimes. For sure, we are the students for wso2 products and come here for
> learning, but we are experienced in IT industry. I hope this list has more
> and more people like Brad and myself. Our mood likes waves, in particular in
> some hard time when try those samples followed by those docs. I would like
> to thank those people who always show and help. They kept me still stay
> here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Xue-Feng
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Sanjiva Weerawarana <sanj...@wso2.com>
>
> *To:* carbon-dev@wso2.org
> *Sent:* Wed, March 2, 2011 7:57:57 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Carbon-dev] Fw: Hello World Gadget doesn't work
>
> Brad & Xue-Feng - we are going to fix these issues. Thank you for your
> patience and please keep reporting ANY issues you find.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Brad Cox <bradj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If it makes you feel any better, Xue-Feng, I have similar background (
>> http://bradjcox.blogspot.com) and had exactly the same results with WSO2
>> samples and documentation quality. I finally managed to cope by using WSAS
>> as nothing more than a service launcher, but can't get anybody else on my
>> team to trust WSO2. Its just too hard to get through the misdirection sent
>> up from all those broken blogs and samples.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Xue-Feng Yang <just4l...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Samisa.
>>>
>>> So far there are too many samples not work in my evaluation process. And
>>> developers here just didn't believe me. Actually, I am IT professional many
>>> years, a professor, directors of some research, VP, CTO, CTA, CS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Samisa Abeysinghe <sam...@wso2.com>
>>> *To:* Xue-Feng Yang <just4l...@yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> *Cc:* carbon-dev@wso2.org
>>> *Sent:* Wed, March 2, 2011 11:17:20 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Carbon-dev] Fw: Hello World Gadget doesn't work
>>>
>>> Yes, it does not work even with the app server up. :(
>>>
>>> This is a bug.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Xue-Feng Yang <just4l...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of course, I have a hello service in appserver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Samisa Abeysinghe <sam...@wso2.com>
>>>>
>>>> *To:* carbon-dev@wso2.org
>>>> *Cc:* Xue-Feng Yang <just4l...@yahoo.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wed, March 2, 2011 10:56:58 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Carbon-dev] Fw: Hello World Gadget doesn't work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe <sam...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Do you have the service endpoint up and running:
>>>>> http://localhost:9763/services/HelloService?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note that, I see the behavior you are seeing  when I do not have the
>>>> service endpoint.
>>>>
>>>> I think that is a problem for "Hello World" sample's usability. We need
>>>> a third party service in there. Can we host the endpoint inside GS for this
>>>> sample?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Xue-Feng Yang <just4l...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>>> *From:* Xue-Feng Yang <just4l...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> *To:* Nuwan Bandara <nu...@wso2.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wed, March 2, 2011 10:00:29 AM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Carbon-dev] Hello World Gadget doesn't work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi /Nuwan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sample I used is exactly the copy of  the sample in the link
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wso2.org/project/gadget-server/1.3.0/docs/gadget_authoring.html#SOAP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with the help of "view plain". Sorry for shifting a little above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please check it in a clean computer? Or tell me where is the
>>>>>> method "wso2.io.makeSOAPRequest". I couldn't find it anywhere in all 
>>>>>> servers
>>>>>> I downloaded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Xue-Feng
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Nuwan Bandara <nu...@wso2.com>
>>>>>> *To:* carbon-dev@wso2.org
>>>>>> *Cc:* Xue-Feng Yang <just4l...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wed, March 2, 2011 9:14:22 AM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Carbon-dev] Hello World Gadget doesn't work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Yang,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The HelloWorld gadget should work out of the box. maybe you have made
>>>>>> a mistake in the gadget xml. If you could share the source, I would 
>>>>>> happy to
>>>>>> look in to it. you can read about the soap support on [1] document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> http://wso2.org/project/gadget-server/1.3.0/docs/gadget_authoring.html#SOAP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> /Nuwan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Xue-Feng Yang <just4l...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would restate this problem since I posted in a wrong place and
>>>>>>> there were no responses so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am testing the sample
>>>>>>> from wso2gs-1.3.0/docs/gadget_authoring.html#hello. It doesn't show 
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> but gadget title in my laptop. The error message from chrome is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 405
>>>>>>> (HTTP method GET is not supported by this URL)
>>>>>>> Refused to set unsafe header "Content-length"
>>>>>>> Refused to set unsafe header "Connection"
>>>>>>> ifr:989<https://192.168.1.103:9448/ifr?container=default&mid=2&nocache=0&country=US&lang=en&view=default&parent=https%3A%2F%2F192.168.1.103%3A9448%2F&up_=undefined&up_stickydata=Click%20in%20the%20sticky%20note%20to%20edit%20it.&st=admin%3Aadmin%3A9298%3Ashindig%3Ahttp%253A//192.168.1.103%253A9768/registry/resource/_system/config/repository/gadget-server/gadgets/sticky.xml%3A0%3Adefault&url=http%3A%2F%2F192.168.1.103%3A9768%2Fregistry%2Fresource%2F_system%2Fconfig%2Frepository%2Fgadget-server%2Fgadgets%2Fsticky.xml#rpctoken=379631103>Uncaught
>>>>>>> ReferenceError: _IG_AddDOMEventHandler is not defined
>>>>>>> ifr:551<https://192.168.1.103:9448/ifr?container=default&mid=10&nocache=0&country=US&lang=en&view=default&parent=https%3A%2F%2F192.168.1.103%3A9448%2F&up_=undefined&st=admin%3Aadmin%3A9723%3Ashindig%3Ahttp%253A//192.168.1.103%253A9768/registry/resource/_system/config/repository/gadget-server/gadgets/HelloGadget.xml%3A0%3Adefault&url=http%3A%2F%2F192.168.1.103%3A9768%2Fregistry%2Fresource%2F_system%2Fconfig%2Frepository%2Fgadget-server%2Fgadgets%2FHelloGadget.xml#rpctoken=379631103>Uncaught
>>>>>>> ReferenceError: wso2 is not defined
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. 
>>>>>>> concat:1741<https://192.168.1.103:9448/gadgets/concat?rewriteMime=text/javascript&gadget=http%3A%2F%2F192.168.1.103%3A9768%2Fregistry%2Fresource%2F_system%2Fconfig%2Frepository%2Fgadget-server%2Fgadgets%2FserviceMon.xml&fp=-182800334&refresh=86400&1=http%3A%2F%2Fnuwanbando.com%2Fgadgets%2Fwso2vis.js%3Fnocache%3D0>Uncaught
>>>>>>>    TypeError: Cannot read property 'nodeType' of undefined
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to know how <Require feature="wso2" />
>>>>>>> and wso2.io.makeSOAPRequest(endpoint, operation, payload) work, but I
>>>>>>> couldn't find any doc on wso2 javascript for SOAP, or anything like
>>>>>>> wso2.js.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Xue-Feng
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From:* Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com>
>>>>>>> *To:* Xue-Feng Yang <just4l...@yahoo.com>; Charitha Kankanamge <
>>>>>>> chari...@wso2.com>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* carbon-dev@wso2.org
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tue, March 1, 2011 10:58:16 PM
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Carbon-dev] Sample CommodityQuote in appserver
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Xue-Feng Yang 
>>>>>>>> <just4l...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Afkham,
>>>>>>>>> 2. Chad--I did step by step from the doc. (see [Carbon-dev] Sample
>>>>>>>>> Chad in appserver)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No one answered so far.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, Chad sample is not working. We have made a big mistake in
>>>>>>>> shipping with a broken sample. Sorry about that. I will look into this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isuru/SupunM,
>>>>>>> Admin cannot login since there is a Javascript error.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. Uncaught Error: WRONG_DOCUMENT_ERR: DOM Exception 4
>>>>>>>     1. 
>>>>>>> WSRequest._processResultWSRequest.js:213<http://10.215.152.149:9763/Chad/js/WSRequest.js>
>>>>>>>       2. 
>>>>>>> WSRequest._handleReadyStateWSRequest.js:279<http://10.215.152.149:9763/Chad/js/WSRequest.js>
>>>>>>>       3. (anonymous function)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Afkham Azeez*
>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect & Senior Manager; WSO2, Inc.;
>>>>>>> http://wso2.com,
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *Member; Apache Software Foundation; 
>>>>>>> **http://www.apache.org/*<http://www.apache.org/>
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> email: **az...@wso2.com* <az...@wso2.com>* cell: +94 77 3320919
>>>>>>> blog: **http://blog.afkham.org* <http://blog.afkham.org>*
>>>>>>> twitter: 
>>>>>>> **http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez*<http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez>
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> linked-in: **http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez*
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nuwan Bandara
>>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>>> WSO2 Inc. | http://wso2.com
>>>>>> lean . enterprise . middleware
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nuwanbando.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.nuwanbando.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Samisa...
>>>>>
>>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>>> VP Engineering
>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>>> http://wso2.com
>>>>> http://wso2.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Samisa...
>>>>
>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>> VP Engineering
>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>> http://wso2.com
>>>> http://wso2.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>> Samisa...
>>>
>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>> VP Engineering
>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>> http://wso2.com
>>> http://wso2.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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